From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Jul 9 22:25:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60125B83B79 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15B5A1F02 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id h190so35874961ith.1 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 15:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=UoggO0UlgNOPnMomTsrtiOKT6BUSgCZZJgJsdvKbS1k=; b=U3uVAK7J+IxKIuJDrGdnqvjyaFxgomIGDN3es3ZdHHPfnSl38Uxe7wK9uabR2KA1uE qFsd1VgsxS3zHc6tfLLnFKbdwP4NnjIk+Y1f2+d6WcHmFV2FF1kzJ6L+gNkhPQ6wqNa+ TQHtodN2gSYjfvlKTKC1IfeEfx6xQMDJizSE6rAnMaXb8zZdeTWs/5EooylXSfJCU3p4 WyJVYHcLIJKpLh60mUBFd3AA8U0FkbhW4mXr+0OvlaI4C1cPi3MvLyHKUBpilaPIh2lp 9aSCViWwzWmnpgpSFLVm8qR4CdWXXyCOY7J1KZgRdQFNIGmpXSYLNtab5S/tKWVPwqKB jqVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UoggO0UlgNOPnMomTsrtiOKT6BUSgCZZJgJsdvKbS1k=; b=AL6fsUWDI+rzMCtLEl1eiZVlC1i+g4gELvvQi7D+wIA9K+wwl09JlncHDglZtlYjAy 4bYBL9IzuQCZykwldnW7GbDzad851n9h8jQJlLDg9rO74afkMg7BkAdoaoawrUOWD3Km oQ04bhfLKkbkBk8IScPdE1xWmNctNMHMVA9sIvQk09rjWVjbSijPc4ISvIMx7WjuHHO2 5UzAUM1rwogq9vGEIDUnxSfTmMybarv+pUeurvnG7QLMlji7V7A+C4iRSqgg+LW/sRty +tA6cX9LC7zqIObCk+dl+S2P2j7QMEClr/j3P945quMJ2xEelf4rIYM1dijS2YaCiNVN vMzw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIp6ng+640U53FzC0Zy/l6cR2OTZdemCNeDsESXBY5NPTd5xfZ0t9jdfsIGV5tICImqsJ2VsLV1NP1TdA== X-Received: by 10.36.39.78 with SMTP id g75mr8439680ita.53.1468103133126; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 15:25:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.78.213 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:25:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <25fc6bb5-a4ae-34cc-818f-37bae2e0fa10@madpilot.net> References: <6ceaba03-3e07-606d-3c93-f3f40c8ae38d@madpilot.net> <20160709173116.GU94145@graf.pompo.net> <3547d58c-c4d9-5165-6f80-2cb2326a5eb0@madpilot.net> <20160709204014.GA73439@graf.pompo.net> <25fc6bb5-a4ae-34cc-818f-37bae2e0fa10@madpilot.net> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:25:32 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1vHwr4YOQPynqZuVJVS1OdSx2AY Message-ID: Subject: Re: base components should always be default (Re: change in default openssl coming) To: FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 22:25:34 -0000 This discussion has now been going on for a while. Several times the question "Why should be do this?" has been asked and answered, but I want to know why it is desirable to have ports use the base OpenSSL. Other than the time and disk space required to install the OpenSSL package, I fail to see the point. There are clear advantages to making the base library private to the base system but I have seen no real, significant reason to use the base library. In particular, I have seen no basis for the rather strongly worded subject of this fork of the original post.Why should "base components should always be default"? It would be nice if a response or two could be technically supportable, but that might be asking a bit too much. The initial post to this was mostly "because I like it this way" and was lacking in technical basis. Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683