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Date:      Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:22:05 +0100
From:      Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org>
To:        Michael Grommet <mgrommet@isiar.net>
Cc:        "'CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM'" <CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM>, "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right
Message-ID:  <19991026002205.C316@marder-1>
In-Reply-To: <7011ACE3864AD31183E50008C7FA081F01D52D@ISIMAIN>
References:  <7011ACE3864AD31183E50008C7FA081F01D52D@ISIMAIN>

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On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 10:51:53AM -0500, Michael Grommet wrote:
> Ok, so let me get this straight...
> 
> you insult the group, the OS, and one of the most respected members of the
> group, and
> you expect help in return?
> 
> BSD/Linux takes a spirit for adventure.  If you don't have this, go back to
> your windows software
> as you will not be happy with either one.
> 
> Unix and unix-like operating systems will require you to actually learn how
> things work and why.
> You will be rewarded by added stability, speed, and most of all, the
> satisfaction that you are wiser for the experience.
> 

Don't forget the first-class free support from -questions; where
you will get more help than "Try re-booting, and if that doesn't
work, re-install the OS" which is what you get from commercial
support :^).

> If you are the type of person who is interested in this arrangement, then
> feel free to post intelligent,non-belligerent questions to this list and you
> might be suprised at how friendly and helpful people can really be,
> especially when they have a genuine love for the operating system.  
> 
> If not, then thats fine too.
> 
> However, I believe you owe the group, and Greg especially, a very sincere
> apology.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Grommet
> Unix Systems Admin / Web Developer
> Internet Solutions, Inc.
> mgrommet@insolwwb.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
> CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:31 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right
> 
> 
> You people are so far into this stuff that you don't know what "easy" means
> anymore.  I tried to install FreeBSD 3.3 last night.  It was the most
> difficult install I've ever seen.  Problems?  How would I know- I never knew
> what it was doing.  It installed, I just didn't know what.  It is so geared
> towards unix experienced geeks that a person unfamiliar with Unix is totally
> lost.  Microsoftcopy sucks but they've got no competition from unix yet.  No
> one can understand it and unix people can't make it understandable.  I
> picked stuff from the menu, but the interface sucked so bad I wasn't sure
> what I had installed.  I was so pissed that I erased it.  I chose FreeBSD
> over Linux because it is supposed to be more stable, but only a hacker geek
> can install this OS.  I'll try Linux, maybe it will be more easily
> understood.  Greg Lehay's book was useless- it was so far up in geek land it
> was amazing.  Of course, what can you expect from a guy who speaks 3
> languages and went to school for chemistry, etc.  He can't write beginner
> books, that's for sure.  Throughout the entire installation I found myself
> wondering how anybody figures this shit out.  I'd appreciate any "PRACTICAL"
> help as I do not want to give up on FreeBSD.
> 
> Sincerely,
> -ChadK
> chadk@freewwweb.com
> 
> 
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