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Date:      Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:33:13 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        lehey.pad@sni.de (Greg Lehey)
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, john@starfire.mn.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: looking for large-capacity tape recommendations, discommendations, comments
Message-ID:  <199604030303.MAA17834@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199604020941.LAA16321@nixpbe.pdb.sni.de> from "Greg Lehey" at Apr 2, 96 10:22:10 am

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Greg Lehey stands accused of saying:
> 
> 4mm tape (DDS) go to 4 GB uncompressed (DDS-2 with 120 m cassettes).
> All DDS-2 drives I know of offer compression, which in my experience
> gives about 90% more storage (i.e. 7.2 GB), though this is strongly
> dependent on the data (gzipped archives take up more space than
> uncompressed data of the same size).  People *have* claimed that DDS-2
> will offer up to 16 GB, and that DDS-1 (90m tapes, 2 GB uncompressed)
> will offer up to 8 GB, but that's so far from normal experience that I
> would consider it a lie.

Well, we have a DDS-2 drive without compression.  Lots cheaper, and
most of the stuff we're backing up is either compressed or not amenable
to DDS-style compression (raw radar data is pretty good as 'random noise').

> Over here, it's DM 10 for a 90m/4GB DDS-1 tape, and DM 28 for a 120m/8
> GB DDS-2 tape, both figures compressed.  Compare these prices to, say,
> DM 25 for a QIC-525 tape (520 MB), and the DDS-2 prices don't look
> that bad.

Pricing here is AUS$13 for a 90m tape, and AUS$45 for a 120m tape, and
the 120m tapes are almost impossible to source.  (Everyone 'has' them,
but nobody can get stock).

> > The Sony SDT-7000 would be a good buy in that category; it's claimed
> > to be capable of over 700K/sec to/from the media (uncompressed) -
> > we see around 400K/sec on an SDT-5200 here, and have been very
> > happy with it.
> 
> How long have you been running it?  BTW, the HP C1533 seems to run at
> about the same speed.

We've had the 5200 about 8 months now; we do weekly backups and occasional
(every couple of weeks) heavy runs with foreign tapes.  So far it's 
run like a trooper.

> > Exabytes can be temperamental, but well-kept they're very reliable.
> 
> So I've been told.

I have one (several 8200's, only one working) at home; as long as you
put up with its idiosyncracies (and the _wonderful_ range of funny
noises it makes), it's not so bad.  Getting them fixed is a nightmare
though 8(

> Greg

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