From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 21 10:12: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C0337BC27 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:12:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com ([216.88.157.130]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14256; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:41:42 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00586; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:18:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:18:49 -0800 From: Greg Lehey To: Paul Richards Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Terry Lambert , Jay Nelson , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The Merger, and what will its effects be on committers? Message-ID: <20000320211849.B522@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <200003171545.IAA16366@usr06.primenet.com> <38D637E0.B9ABBBBB@originative.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38D637E0.B9ABBBBB@originative.co.uk>; from paul@originative.co.uk on Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:38:24PM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 20 March 2000 at 14:38:24 +0000, Paul Richards wrote: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: >> >> Terry Lambert writes: >>> The point is that, if a driver already exists in BSDI, and FreeBSD >>> becomes the public shadow of the BSDI source tree, there is very >>> little incentive to write a new driver among volunteers, because >>> the job has already been done, and there are interesting things to >>> write that haven't yet been done. >> >> Why would FreeBSD become the public shadow of the BSDI source tree? >> From what I've read about the merger, the reverse (BSDI becoming the >> commercial shadow of FreeBSD) is more likely. >> >> Let me spell it out for you: BSDI WILL NOT CONTROL FREEBSD. >> >> Nobody can take arbitrary control of FreeBSD. It's open source. Even >> if Jordan, David & co. were to "sell out" to BSDI today, they couldn't >> stop committers from finding another place to host the project and >> carry on with its development. The worst they can do is stop us from >> using the name. > > Umm, that's more than a little ridiculous. > > Nobody can stop anyone taking the codebase and lauching another project. > If "Jordan, David & co" stop you using the name then what you're doing > is setting up a competing project not taking the project somewhere else. I think this is a matter of definition. Do you consider the project to be the name, or the product? Recall that we have already gone through a number of names: UNIX, Berkeley UNIX, BSD UNIX, BSD, FreeBSD. There's a continuity of product from one to the next. Sure, I wouldn't want to drop the BSD name, but then I wasn't too happy when we had to drop the UNIX name, either. But we survived. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message