From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 9 20:24:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5599137B400 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93F6043E42 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 29305 invoked by uid 417); 10 Sep 2002 03:24:24 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 03:24:24 -0000 Received: from planb ([216.194.25.11]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:24:21 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:24:08 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-Id: <20020909232408.3c7c58a4.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20020907082509.M44831-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> References: <3D79A5B8.C6176B8E@mindspring.com> <20020907082509.M44831-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:31:10 -0700 (PDT) "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > Here's mine: The people of Israel were set aside by God as His > chosen people. As such they were to be distinguished from the > gentiles through ceremonial practices, one of which included not > eating pork. When the Messiah came, God expanded His promises > to the whole world, there was no longer to be any distinction > between jew and gentile, for all are one in Christ, thus to The "ceremonial" and "rational" laws promolgated by the Oral and Written Torah are in my opinion primarily to make it's practitioners in contact with the idea of the divine at all times. If G-d is not in my refrigerator where is he? Of course, without a peoplehood such a complex of laws cannot survive, or evolve, so naturally non-Jews are obligated in the 7 mitzvos of Bnai Noach rather than the 613 that apply to Jews. (Unless they of course of their own volition choose to join the Jewish people, but gaining converts is not a goal of Judaism.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message