From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 06:04:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E0E694A for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1DBD2BF2 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBJ64bYo029211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:04:38 -0800 Message-ID: <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:04:37 -0800 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Sorenson , Mark Millard Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] References: In-Reply-To: X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVatI7O+61KgQaOvu4ZvzhsYNFU8kPby90ruwWeMamQcwGTkn5QTbVNxRRBZyzoX2ixtFGgv5+R3VOvI16GFgtOL0lXG6wkF8SU= X-Sonic-ID: C;GE/F6USH5BGJrFG2qJ4NOg== M;7GYG6kSH5BGJrFG2qJ4NOg== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:04:44 -0000 I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? -Nathan On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: > > I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an > XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. > Problem appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although > I've been wrong before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the > release process so no idea if it makes sense. > > -Bill S. > > On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" > wrote: > > I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report > sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE > .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. > > As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > .) > > I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no > XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My > tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, > however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. > Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check > some as time went on. > > > From: Nathan Whitehorn > > Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based > CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > To: Mark Millard >, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > > > Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > reminder! > -Nathan > > On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > fans then gradually spin up. > > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that > is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just > the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the > G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes > are easier to understand): > > For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > > loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > fans then gradually spin up. > > In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the > line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > The original messages were: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > > > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything > yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks > so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can > try once I get back. > > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same > way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 > 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's > .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and > .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) > boot hangs very early in the process > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso > burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " >