From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 24 22:04:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13039ADCC86 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rakupottery.org.uk) Received: from iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com (rslrsmtp2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D581F8B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rakupottery.org.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2BxBQDrY/RW//6AGD5dHYNqfaZWBQGBEZRlJYUeSgKCAgEBAQEBAWUnhEIBAQQ4QBELGAkTAw8JAwIBAgFFEwgBARaIEQrBLAEBAQcBAQEBAQEBARiFVoUMhBZyhQoFl16FcYpGhwSFVI8KYoNlbAGIGIE7AQEB X-IPAS-Result: A2BxBQDrY/RW//6AGD5dHYNqfaZWBQGBEZRlJYUeSgKCAgEBAQEBAWUnhEIBAQQ4QBELGAkTAw8JAwIBAgFFEwgBARaIEQrBLAEBAQcBAQEBAQEBARiFVoUMhBZyhQoFl16FcYpGhwSFVI8KYoNlbAGIGIE7AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,387,1454976000"; d="scan'208";a="703725410" Received: from smtp-pub.talktalk.net (HELO rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com) ([62.24.128.254]) by iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2016 22:04:26 +0000 Received: from [92.27.146.104] (helo=imac.local) by rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ajDMd-0000tC-Mq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Anti-virus for FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44909.128.135.52.6.1458829510.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <56F3FA4C.4020707@tundraware.com> <19103.128.135.52.6.1458839363.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <86io0bpssb.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20160324205825.2b14c0bf.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Martin Smith Message-ID: <56F46462.5010204@rakupottery.org.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:18 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160324205825.2b14c0bf.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:04:27 -0000 On 24/03/2016 19:58, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:41:56 -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> Ransomware is probably the least >> threatening of malware out there, since it seems limited in effect and >> is thwarted by regular backups. > Interesting point of view. :-) > > Here are a few impressions regarding ransomware (which I think > could be the next "big thing" especially in the industry space > as well as in the "cloud" - because it's so easy to trick users > into doing something wrong, and then they don't have any chance > to avoid paying). Especially where R&D takes place (or "corporate > secrets", "new invention", "big data of clients" etc. are vital > to business operations and how companies are perceived by the > public), this could have a _massive_ impact. > > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/03/hospital-declares-internet-state-of-emergency-after-ransomware-infection/ > > http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-ransomware-idUSKCN0W80VX > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2906983/security0/massachusetts-police-department-pays-500-cryptolocker-ransom.html > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/21/us-police-force-pay-bitcoin-ransom-in-cryptolocker-malware-scam > > https://securityledger.com/2015/10/fbis-advice-on-cryptolocker-just-pay-the-ransom/ > > http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/11/crypto-e-mail-service-pays-6000-ransom-gets-taken-out-by-ddos-anyway/ > > http://hothardware.com/news/sony-comes-to-a-screeching-halt-targeted-by-massive-ransomware-hack > > http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/youre-infected-if-you-want-to-see-your-data-again-pay-us-300-in-bitcoins/ > > http://www.tekconn.com/news/managed-it/hackers-ransom-data-stolen-from-illinois-medical-facility/ > > As you mentioned "backups": What is their value when they are > permanently online and accessible (bacause that's sooo conventient > for the users) - and therefore get encrypted, too? ;-) I think this is actually one of the biggest problems, computers and the internet have had a very similar effect to the motor car, they have made people lazy, and of course the drive for higher profits by using less staff does not help either, hence everything has to be instantly available from everywhere without any thought for security..... > > -- Martin