From owner-svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Wed Aug 15 20:43:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-stable-11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCE1106FEFA for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org (outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org [52.58.109.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC8527A908 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-RoutePath: aGlwcGll X-MHO-User: c40dc9b6-a0cb-11e8-aff6-0b9b8210da61 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [67.177.211.60]) by outbound1.eu.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id c40dc9b6-a0cb-11e8-aff6-0b9b8210da61; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7FKgkTh075908; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 14:42:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1534365765.1466.15.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r337826 - stable/11/bin/ls From: Ian Lepore To: rgrimes@freebsd.org Cc: Kyle Evans , Adam Weinberger , svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers , Ed Maste , svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 14:42:45 -0600 In-Reply-To: <201808152034.w7FKYTss049694@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201808152034.w7FKYTss049694@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for only the 11-stable src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:43:01 -0000 On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 13:34 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 13:26 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > Will backing out the MFC and leaving this a 12.0 feature end > > > > this? > > > =( > > > > > > Sadly no, as the person responded with that reaction when > > > they installed 12.0-ALPHA :-(. > > So one whiner can demand of the project that any new feature be > > removed > > before a new release is made? > Saddly our sample size is never reflective of the user base, > any and all feedback from ANY user, one or one hundred should > be considered.  Most people have come to the point that they > wont even say anything any more cause the FreeBSD developer > community just ignores them, and that I hear from many more > than 1. > > I doubt very many of the "user" base is running with this > patch in place yet. > > If citing invisible armies of supporters is acceptable, it appears that any single person can in fact demand removal of something. -- Ian