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Date:      Thu, 25 Aug 2011 05:39:18 +0200
From:      Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
To:        Henry Olyer <henry.olyer@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: A quality operating system
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:48:46 -0400, Henry Olyer wrote:
> Sure, nothing human is perfect, that includes the people behind FreeBSD and
> also the OS.

And even if the OS is perfect, its 3rd party applications may be not.



> But compared to (gasp!,) windoz and linux, (not too bad, but it's as
> non-secure as windoz!,) FreeBSD and OpenBSD standout for one reason, their
> better.

In security-related settings, you're _happy_ about this attitude.
If you want a special feature, you're smart enough to enable it
yourself. This often is better than stuffing all the visible holes
and hoping there's just a limited amount of invisible ones that
don't harm your security. In most real-life cases, that's just
a nice wish, but not reality. :-)



> I would like to see negotiate a deal to give us pre-built java-enabled
> browsers.  A few other things, too.

But that's where politics and lawyer-blahblah enter the field.
Why is there no browser with _all_ the available plugins (and
even if they just run per compatibility layer) available? Or
a media player (as a package) that plays _all_ types of media?
Why are non-english languages often a task with trouble? Why
doesn't OpenOffice come with dictionaries?

And so on. I could complain all day long. :-)

People complain that some things don't work out of the box.
But in many cases, the FreeBSD OS is the wrong party to address.
There are other parties who are interested in _not_ allowing
others to include Java, media codecs and so on in a default
install, and some software manufacturers refuse to support
FreeBSD (which is their right, but doesn't make it any better).
The same applies to restricted support for incompatible
hardware.


-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...



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