From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 23:51:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3C816A4D0; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pear.silverwraith.com (66-214-182-79.la-cbi.charterpipeline.net [66.214.182.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1893D43D55; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:51:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from avleen@pear.silverwraith.com) Received: from avleen by pear.silverwraith.com with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AeUwV-0009Sd-Gb; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 23:50:59 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:50:59 -0800 From: Avleen Vig To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20040108075059.GK53429@silverwraith.com> References: <20040107235737.I32227@pooker.samsco.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040107235737.I32227@pooker.samsco.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Sender: Avleen Vig cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:51:01 -0000 On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 12:35:01AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > So, this is something to consider before 5.3. After that, we are > stuck with the consequences of whatever we choose (or don't choose) for > the entire 5.x lifespan. I do not cherish the thought of fighting > floppies for another 2-3 years. I'm happy to work with someone who steps > forward and is committed to maintaining the floppies as they are today. > Otherwise, we need to seriously consider the alternative. Scott, While it is indeed true that most machines since 1997 will support this CD format, please take in to account: There are lots of machines with no CD drives: "Slimline" machines a la dell/compaq/hp/gateway Many corporate workstations Laptops Machines older than 1997 (this is mostly anything early PII chips and older, of which there are still a lot). Freebsd does work great on old hardware :) I'm sure there are others I can't think of at almost midnight.. :) I understand it is difficult to maintain the floppies. I wish I understood them better :-) Is it not possible to have "ftp install" floppies, which do nothing more than simple FTP installations? -- Avleen Vig Systems Administrator Personal: www.silverwraith.com EFnet: irc.mindspring.com (Earthlink user access only)