From owner-freebsd-current Wed Aug 25 9:29:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8065D15AEB; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA43994; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:28:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199908251628.JAA43994@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Softupdates reliability? In-Reply-To: <199908250923.LAA77550@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Aug 25, 1999 11:23:41 am" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: green@FreeBSD.ORG, richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au, jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As Rodney W. Grimes wrote ... > > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Richard Tobin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 > > > The original K6-2's off the line where all 100MHz parts, it was later when > > AMD found that some people where sticking these in 66MHz boards and trying > > to run them with a 66MHz FSB and having troubles that AMD started to test > > the parts for 66MHz operation, they had to make some changes in the I/O > > buffers and then qualify a new part number and those are the ones stamped 66. > > Aka AMD 6K86-2-P300/66 vs AMD 6K86-2-P300/100 for those who know what a > > real AMD part number is. > > Rod, > > Do I understand you correctly that I should get a 66Mc variant for my Asus > T2P4 because a 100Mc is unlikely to work? Or are the newer 100Mc chips also > coping OK with 66Mc FSB? Yes, you stand a far better chance of making this hack work with a 66MHz part. No the newer std parts are not designed to run with a 66MHz FSB, you should always order them as /66. Note that AMD has stopped making these chips due to low demand for them (with 100MHz boards <$80 USA the price/performance is usually worth it for most folks.) > (I'm aware of the slight hardware hack required to make a T2P4 accept a K6-2. > What would be the fastest K6-2 running ok with a 66 FSB? And is this > potential upgrade worthwhile, with K6-2 going here for around 80-90$ or so?) I've got about 8 of the T2P4's here and I'm not going to bother with it, they are all getting replaced with 100MHz boards... and 450MHz chips that have now fallen to <$82 US. And I pick up 1MB L2 cache while I'm at it :-) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message