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Date:      Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:43:08 +0200
From:      Nikola Lecic <nlecic@EUnet.yu>
To:        Gemma Fletcher <slvhwke@optusnet.com.au>
Cc:        Matthias Apitz <m.apitz@oclcpica.org>, doug <doug@fledge.watson.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: KDE 3.5 Crashing
Message-ID:  <200706181743.l5IHhBHH021336@smtpclu-6.eunet.yu>
In-Reply-To: <200706162045.57727.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au>
References:  <200706152133.27118.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au> <20070615114110.GA76255@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200706162045.57727.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au>

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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:45:57 +1000
Gemma Fletcher <slvhwke@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> On Friday 15 June 2007 21:41, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > El d=C3=ADa Friday, June 15, 2007 a las 09:33:27PM +1000, Gemma Fletche=
r=20
> escribi=C3=B3:
>=20
> > Can you check if only X or KDE is frozen, or the system at all?
> > Try to connect from some other host on the network.
> > Try to do some RAM testing as well.
> >
> > 	matthias
>=20
> Ok my RAM is fine and dandy.  I'm not sure how to check to see if
> only KDE is frozen.  Once is freezes I can't do anything.  Not even
> reset with ctrl-alt-del.  And my keyboard usually goes dead
> <indicated by my numlock light turning off>
>=20
> Its just me - so I have no other host to connect from.  I did notice
> something though that i forgot to mention- it usually only crashes if
> I am doing some internet related activity. <Ie.Browsing, checking
> email, IM'ing etc>  If I just do normal stuff like spreadsheeting, or
> developing or whatever it seems to run fine.

Hello Gemma,

Although it really looks like hardware, you can also do this to be 100%
sure it isn't software related:

(1) Had you used that computer before you have installed FreeBSD? It
    would be a nice idea to post here the output of your 'dmesg'
    or /var/log/messages.

(2) Have you tried to run a small script as Matthias proposed?

(3) Are you sure your ports are up-to-date? If in doubt, install
    ports-mgmt/portupgrade and run
   =20
      # portversion -v -L =3D

(4) If yes, as of "how to check X without KDE", do the following:

  (a) run 'xinit' without ~/.xinitrc file to avoid starting KDE and
      or any other window manager; (once you start it, you can go back
      by 'exit' or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace; please note that you must put the
      mouse over the window in order to move focus on it);

  (b) check if there are warning -- (WW) -- or other suspicious messages
      in /var/log/Xorg.0.log;

  (c) while in pure xinit session, run Firefox or other application that
      is not KDE/Qt related;

  (d) run Opera, Skype or similar app that is Qt- but not KDE-related;

  (e) run KDE applications (Konqueror, KMail, etc.)

and report one by one what happened, from (1) to (4e). Maybe it helps
to isolate the problem, besides hardware tests :)

Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87



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