From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:13:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4FD16A4CE; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:13:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD4B43D31; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:13:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2OKC2Mm075663; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:12:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <42431EC6.1020303@samsco.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:10:46 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <1110800717.1296.19.camel@localhost> <200503231411.46948.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20050323154642.J37251@sasami.jurai.net> <42421D8D.5060502@elischer.org> <20050323205841.N37251@sasami.jurai.net> <77e48641fc04164b4c81cce75c42a38b@FreeBSD.org> <42431806.3060302@elischer.org> <20050324195628.GC10908@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20050324195628.GC10908@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Vladimir Grebenschikov cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: Julian Elischer cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: "current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Reattach/redetect allways connected umass device - is it possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:13:44 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 24), Julian Elischer said: > >>John Baldwin wrote: >> >>>On Mar 23, 2005, at 9:00 PM, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Julian Elischer wrote: >>>> >>>>>eject should imply a detach.. >>>>>i.e. I think your patch should call the detach code from the eject >>>>>code. >>>> >>>>Eject is for devices that support removable media. >> >>that doesn't mean that an eject shouldn't do all teh work for a >>detach as well. > > > I would be extremely surprised if a "camcontrol eject cd0" removed > /dev/cd0 :) Eject is for devices whose media can be removed, but the > device itself stays. > > Or are you just saying detach should do an eject (possibly a stop also) > first? > Let me reinforce this since there seems to be quite a bit of confusion. The 'stop' and 'eject' actions of camcontrol operate in the context of how they are defined in the SCSI world. That is, they send a particular command to the target that makes the target do the intended action. They do __not__ imply that CAM will detach the logical device, flush the buffer-cache, etc. There is a whole lot less magic here than I think that everyone is hoping for. Scott