From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 17:31:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EBDC99EFE for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FC4B1044 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uBVHVPLU085160; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pki2.com; s=pki2; t=1483205485; bh=V5wdqW2VSnUvpREaHmsk4eM/BGwSdosWKSwl+Sd0fSE=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; z=Subject:=20Re:=20End=20of=20year=20Xorg=20status=20rant|From:=20D ennis=20Glatting=20|To:=20"O.=20Hartmann"=20,=20Matthew=20Macy=20|Cc:=2 0"freebsd-x11@freebsd.org"=20,=20Beeblebr ox=0D=0A=09=20|Date:=20Sat,=2031=20Dec=20201 6=2009:31:25=20-0800|In-Reply-To:=20<20161231120453.13adf858@thor. walstatt.dynvpn.de>|References:=20<20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.r sb>=0D=0A=09=20<15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextb sd.org>=0D=0A=09=20<20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.d e>; b=wtRoAjcYCRO7y84CFV+NsutGSJZ1vNTNcA7C+q0ru6KYuVxN1K9kZsORLrcVyJ1PW PfeBtHKsq9kGVLVBQXVsvrAQsPpoDN5d0U4Ty4OuaeCilm3TmEcesJ2js/mNVHRU9+ 616ZcdiKNU+7aTH3tkVTSt4JYxwU9rnSLSKJZpAync517k0vGK3Sz5/Npb/vayyzAR 69mS6lyfJD4q1/upxr/u/TuIQ6gRVOvUN9fcMxLC2jIfxeR6Q4Y72qfLIClRcQ1C6H FP92nsuHGx2cP+f/t8bD8ob0sUcbmI5evqxunVTh8931BoCeSDDHyzzEYvNeaPcjJJ kF+g3YoHL6sYg== Message-ID: <1483205485.6007.54.camel@pki2.com> Subject: Re: End of year Xorg status rant From: Dennis Glatting To: "O. Hartmann" , Matthew Macy Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" , Beeblebrox Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:31:25 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> References: <20161230163653.54909631@rsbsd.rsb> <15952279f17.e0be0d8c34357.732964216134709731@nextbsd.org> <20161231120453.13adf858@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: uBVHVPLU085160 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:31:42 -0000 On Sat, 2016-12-31 at 12:04 +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Time to change paradigm, time to change OS ... +1 All of our GPGPU (OpenCL but kept an eye toward OpenACC) and GNURadio development is now Linux. Tried FreeBSD. As Dr. Smith would say:  Oh the pain... OpenMP now works under clang but it was a problem area. At the time C++-11 support was problematic (e.g., the C++ standard library under clang was significantly slower for some containers). A coffin nail was the lack of Fortran support from clang -- mixing clang C/C++ and gfortran was a pain (makefile management, debug, etc).  The path of least resistance was simply to move to Ubuntu.