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Date:      Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:55:40 -0800
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se>
Cc:        Mark Sams <msams992000@yahoo.com.au>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: atacontrol missing drive after upgrade to 6.3
Message-ID:  <20081119195540.GA6217@icarus.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <20081119194851.GA20898@owl.midgard.homeip.net>
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 08:48:51PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:32:42AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:29:19AM -0800, Mark Sams wrote:
> > > > From: Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
> > > > You're using Intel MatrixRAID, aren't you?  Please migrate away from
> > > > this immediately, your data is at risk.
> > > 
> > > Ummm... I don't think so. It is just a standard RAID 1 mirror using the
> > > built in ICH5 chip. It has been running fine for a over a year now on
> > > the other builds of FreeBSD 6.x.  It is not RAID 0+1 or whatever the
> > > Matrix RAID thing is.
> > 
> > The built-in ICH5 == Intel MatrixRAID.  It's BIOS-level RAID under an
> > Intel ICH chip.  It's called MatrixRAID.
> 
> No, it is not.  MatrixRAID was not introduced until with the ICH6R
> controller.  Earlier Intel ICH chips (including the ICH5) may well have
> supported some kind of BIOS-level RAID, but it was not MatrixRAID.
> 
> (This is not to say that their earlier RAID implementations was any more
> or less reliable - I have no data on that.)

This is news to me.  I'll spend some time tonight at Intel's site
reading old chipset specifications.  :-)

The ataraid(4) man page only mentions MatrixRAID with regards to Intel,
which is why I'm wondering what exactly the ICH5 offers.  I wonder if
it's a very primitive RAID type which ataraid(4) simply handles under
the MatrixRAID code (which would explain the problems he's having with
getting the array back in order).

Thanks for the education lesson!  Always appreciated.  :-)

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| Jeremy Chadwick                                jdc at parodius.com |
| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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