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Date:      Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:03:14 +0700
From:      Victor Sudakov <>
To:        Polytropon <>
Cc:        FreeBSD <>
Subject:   Re: looks like I am no longer welcome around here
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Polytropon wrote:
> > > 
> > > Just my own opinion; however, I do not consider synth, unlike poudriere, to be bloated.
> > 
> > I don't even consider poudriere bloated. It is neat, does not require
> > weird dependencies or GUI libs, stores its configuration in text
> > files, uses the standard ports and jail infrastructure. Why would
> > anyone call it bloated?
> Not exactly bloated, but it could be considered "overhead"
> just to build one or two ports. 

It's not meant for that. I use it for what it was meant: a local
repository (you can even look at it at from
where I install packages to a dozen FreeBSD hosts, with the options I

> However, Poudriere is not
> intended as a replacement for portmaster or portmanager,

Of course! It makes "pkg install|upgrade" on several hosts much

> that's important to keep in mind. And for the specific
> case I mentioned, local repositories and restricted lists
> are the way to go. If even that's too much, the classic
> "make install" and "pkg lock" will probably be okay.
> Except for the name, I don't dislike anything specific about
> Poudriere. ;-)

I love French! I love the way it sounds and I love songs in French.

Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN

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