From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 12 07:03:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB032E8FB52 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 07:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0376F5DB for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 07:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39888905; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 12:58:32 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vBC73Hqg073546; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:03:19 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id vBC73ETJ073545; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:03:14 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:03:14 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: looks like I am no longer welcome around here Message-ID: <20171212070313.GD72523@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20171209135853.a6c104f5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20171209160730.GA3370@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20171209195258.d4727a94.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171209195258.d4727a94.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 07:03:23 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > > > > > > Just my own opinion; however, I do not consider synth, unlike poudriere, to be bloated. > > > > I don't even consider poudriere bloated. It is neat, does not require > > weird dependencies or GUI libs, stores its configuration in text > > files, uses the standard ports and jail infrastructure. Why would > > anyone call it bloated? > > Not exactly bloated, but it could be considered "overhead" > just to build one or two ports. It's not meant for that. I use it for what it was meant: a local repository (you can even look at it at http://svn.sibptus.ru/) from where I install packages to a dozen FreeBSD hosts, with the options I need. > However, Poudriere is not > intended as a replacement for portmaster or portmanager, Of course! It makes "pkg install|upgrade" on several hosts much easier. > that's important to keep in mind. And for the specific > case I mentioned, local repositories and restricted lists > are the way to go. If even that's too much, the classic > "make install" and "pkg lock" will probably be okay. > > Except for the name, I don't dislike anything specific about > Poudriere. ;-) I love French! I love the way it sounds and I love songs in French. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859