From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Mar 28 18:41:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (merhaba.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ACD14E62 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-1-17.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.42.26]) by merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18542; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:41:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36FEE807.81A413E3@confusion.net> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:40:07 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Adkins Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Logo merchandise References: <4.1.19990328201237.00a7be10@mailbox.iwaynet.net> <36FEC37B.BBE26454@uswest.net> <4.1.19990328203952.00a7d3e0@mailbox.iwaynet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anybody evaluating the OS shouldnt be on advocacy. The best place for that would be -newbies or -questions. The point of the -advocacy list is to spread the word about FBSD. To get people interested. Or rather the list is a discussion of how to get those people interested. It's not the place to go to satisfy that interest. I admit the thread is a little silly, but still, it's important that as many people wear a FreeBSD T-Shirt as possible. Once they see the T-Shirt and say "Hey, what in the world is that?" you tell them and they go to www.freebsd.org, and maybe read some stuff and join -questions. They dont go to advocacy for an evaluation. If someone lurking here is looking for info, then I recommend you go to -questions, where you'll get a view of FreeBSD. This isnt the place for that. It's the place for talking about conventions, artwork, advertising, and TShirts. Brian Adkins wrote: > At 01:28 PM 3/29/99 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > >Actually Brian, this was not a discussion about which colour t-shirt I > >wanted. It was about presenting a clean-green image when it came to t- > >shirts. Which *is* advocacy AFAIK. > > Dan, if you think 12 separate posts about the bloody color of a t-shirt is > significant in helping the FreeBSD project, then have at it man! Let me > ask you this, though. If you were someone evaluating operating systems and > you were lurking in the advocacy list for several of them and most of what > you saw on the FreeBSD list was what you see below, would you get a good > feeling about where the project was heading and what the vision and > priorities were? > > --- > While we're talking about the other promotional goods, how's about some > T-SHirts that are black instead of white? I hate white t-shirts but i'd love > to get a FreeBSD shirt. > --- > It takes a _lot_ more ink to do a black one, but I agree it's worth it > for the effect. You'll pay $20 instead of $16 to get one? I would too. > --- > I wouldn't. $4 more just to have the shirt black? Dye is cheap. > --- > We'll see. I do want to make black shirts, whatever > the cost. > --- > Even a white T-Shirt requires dye, otherwise it would be a grayish color. I > would thing a dime would suffice for the dye, and something for handling, > but $4.00 seems excessive! > --- > On a green-clean note, why not have unbleached cotton? It's not white, > looks good, and doesn't go gray as it gets older . > --- > I would certainly pay extra for a black T-Shirt. Also lets get more sizes > from XXXL to XXS, I know some rather large people who would want a shirt, > not to mention some people who'd like to have little kids wearing the > shirts. (It'd be pretty cool if my 5 year old brother could get an XS) > --- > I don't like white t-shirts, it's hard to keep them looking clean and > new. I prefer that mottled grey color... (or is that the unbleached > cottom colour?) > --- > That's unbleached cotton AFAIK. > --- > Grey? As in what you often see many sweat pants and sweat shirts? No, > not that grey. I just rang my neighbour, who's a colour expert, to find > out about this. Unbleached cotton is more of a cream colour. > --- > Fair enough. But the main reason I mentioned unbleached cotton was > environmental. > --- > The grey I'm talking about commonly found in athletic t-shirts. Hanes > and Jockey both make them in packs of three. It's a softer neutral > colour (white can be rather harsh and clash with darker colours.) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message