From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 10:56:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F019916A4BF; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 10:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amsfep16-int.chello.nl (amsfep16-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17E543F85; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from sitetronics.com ([213.46.142.207]) by amsfep16-int.chello.nl ESMTP <20030902175655.JVEE24754.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@sitetronics.com>; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:56:55 +0200 Message-ID: <3F54D9AF.2050007@sitetronics.com> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:55:59 +0200 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030820 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: twig les References: <20030902173844.42672.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030902173844.42672.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.org cc: Michal Pasternak cc: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux on TechTV September 2, 7pm EDT (Live) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:56:59 -0000 Yeah, I mentioned the consistency, and I still think it'd be nice to show off :) Like maybe you could install some game or application that needs some kind of configuration from ports and then show how you'd configure it. And perhaps do that with a couple other things to show that stuff really goes in the right space. Whether or not there's time to demonstrate it, it must be said. In the mean time, here are some java projects that look neat that I found @ sf: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ctbj3d/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtuadesk/ http://aoi.sourceforge.net/ <-- this one looks really cool :) http://javaisdoomed.sourceforge.net/ <-- doom like game in java, uses opengl, looks neat. Doing a search for Java on SF should give much more stuff, these are the things that jumped out at me as being "eye-candy". Another idea would be to pre-make a live cd of FreeBSD, perhaps with picobsd (seems to be the easiest way to me) or something else and pop it in at some point to display that you have the same flexibility as with Linux -- except it's consistent. It'll be great if they do something like this and boot with Knoppix while having Red Hat installed... Then we can really show the configuration differences. I wouldn't mind creating a picobsd image for you guys. If this is a good idea, lemme know what kind of kernel to build and what release, and I'll make it right away :). --Devon twig les wrote: >Please mention patches...and how few the FBSD admin needs to >apply. That is boring but in the public eye right now. Also >the consistency that someone else mentioned. When the admin >installs something new, they can pretty well guess where the >config file will be. With Linux it's a crap shoot depending on >distro. Mean time between reboots would be nice if you caould >get data. > >--- Murray Stokely wrote: > > >>On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 11:59:16AM +0200, Michal Pasternak >>wrote: >> >> >>>I'd suggest the demonstration of Linux emulation - for >>> >>> >>example, by showing a >> >> >>>working Oracle installation or launching some Linux-only >>> >>> >>games. >> >>We may launch StarOffice 6 this time. Matt was working with >>the WineX >>guys trying to get some Windows games to load (people have >>done it in >>FreeBSD) but couldn't get them working. >> >> >> >>>I'd also suggest talking about Java. >>> >>> >>We're certainly going to talk about Java, and the new Java >>packages >>are loaded on the machine, but I'd like to "show it off". Any >>ideas >>about Java apps that we can show off? >> >>Something we want to do is use Konqueror & kmplayer to browse >>to >>apple.com/trailers and watch teasers in browser. >> >> >> >>>I'd also suggest talking about NVidia drivers. >>> >>> >>Yes, we have an NVidia card in our box and have the drivers >>working >>with hardware accel in X. >> >> >> >>>I'd also... man, there are so many topics. Hope you can get >>> >>> >>enough TV time >> >> >>>to show all those to the public. >>> >>> >>We won't have anywhere near enough time. >> >> - Murray >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> >"freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >===== >----------------------------------------------------------- >Emo is what happens when the glee club goes punk. >----------------------------------------------------------- > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >