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Date:      Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:58:00 -0600
From:      Russell Cattelan <cattelan@thebarn.com>
To:        Alex <ak@freenet.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live
Message-ID:  <38212E78.CFF011DD@thebarn.com>
References:  <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> <199911040122.KAA60961@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <19991103205203.A2472@ipass.net> <3820ECA7.2B9C11E1@thebarn.com> <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk>

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Alex wrote:

> Russell Cattelan wrote:
> >
> > Randall Hopper wrote:
> >
> > > Seigo Tanimura:
> > >  |On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600,
> > >  |  Russell Cattelan <cattelan@thebarn.com> said:
> > >  |
> > >  |cattelan> The problem with this of course would be the driver would have to
> > >  |cattelan> be entirely GPL'ed.
> > >  |cattelan> Any thoughts on this?
> > >  |cattelan> worth while in the sort term, complete rewrite in the long term?
> > >  |cattelan> (that may be hard to do without referencing the GPL'ed code)
> > >  |
> > >  |
> > >  |In the view of our sound driver architechure, rewriting would be an option
> > >  |as well, unless someone figures out a good way to accomodate OSS/ALSA drivers
> > >  |into newpcm & newmidi.
> > >
> > > It's possible it could be accommodated as GPL.  The Linux AWE drivers I
> > > integrated into the kernel tree are GPL, for example:
> > >
> > >     /usr/src/sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound/
> > >
> > > Main thing is they can't be compiled into the GENERIC kernel.  The user
> > > must make the choice to link GPL code into their kernels.  If you defer to
> > > the user, then you're safe with GPL AFAIK (though having to even think
> > > about this GPL link-infection nonsense is a pain).
> > >
> >
> > This would be a nice option...  at least initially.
> > If it were to be integrated into the newpcm stuff where
> > does it leave it? GPL'ed? not cool. probably not acceptable.
> > Integrate the code but keep  GPL code in a separate dir creating dividing line?
>
> No!  No GPLd crap in the kernel.

Please don't do that!
I've seen to many technical discussions digress into the "Men are from
Mars Women are from Venus" type discussions.

I'm not a bit fan of the GPL, but people use it for that same reason
they use windows; it's there and everybody else uses it why shouldn't I.


> The newpcm architecture is nice and
> clean and it's best to keep it that way.  The Linux driver can be used
> as a source of information on how to initialise and program the card,
> but no actual code should be integrated into the tree (not verbatim,
> anyway).  There doesn't seem to be anything special or particularly
> complex about SBLive that it can't be ported to FreeBSD.





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