From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 7 18:04:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8078B16A4CE; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:04:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC5943D49; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 10:04:27 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 764745D04; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:04:26 -0800 (PST) To: mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:52:15 GMT." <20041207175217.3138143D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 10:04:26 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20041207180426.764745D04@ptavv.es.net> cc: ports@freebsd.org cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Christoph Moench-Tegeder Subject: Re: Large port updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:04:27 -0000 > From: mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk > Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:52:15 +0000 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > cmt@burggraben.net wrote: > > > Not in this case. Check /usr/ports/UPDATING 20041107: > > : Do NOT use portupgrade(1) to update your GNOME 2.6 desktop to 2.8 > > Last time this happened, this is what caused my to deinstall > gnome. THe upgrade script could take weeks to run on a reasonable spec > machine because it insisted on rebuilding all sorts of stuff. You > couldn't stop it, or it would start over. > > It seems to me that its a product of gnome being so many ports. Why > not just have a few, like KDE (although it appears KDE is going the > way of gnome - if this results in portupgrade not working there > either, its insanity). The vast number of interdependencies in Gnome do make upgrading a pain, but the 2.8 upgrade has a -restart option, so you don't have to start over. The upgrade is an overnight thing for at least the first pass. On my old 450 MHz K6 it took over a day. But, once I fixed a few problems and restarted the upgrade, it finished up quite cleanly in about 20 minutes. I have upgraded all of my systems ranging from the 450 MHz K6 to a 1.8 GHz P4M and only one took over a day and that one was done while I was on travel and couldn't really keep on top of the upgrade. I would STRONGLY urge that you do a portupgrade -aF to pre-fetch all source tarballs before you start. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634