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Date:      Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:06:19 -0600
From:      "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <sysop@mixcom.com>
To:        Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 2.2 Upgrading for idiots?
Message-ID:  <3.0.32.19970318170618.006ca9e4@mixcom.com>

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At 10:40 PM 3/17/97 -0800, Doug White wrote:
>Absolutely not.  That is why you need the boot floppy -- it'll replace
>your existing binaries, which will do the equivalent of a "make all
>install." When you get finished, you'll be booting a 2.2 GENERIC kernel,
>and no doubt you'll want to restore your custom settings, thus #5.

Great!  And I just made some time to look over the system and see that most
everything is updated.

>I've done 5 or 6 upgrades the same way without any adverse effects.  Later
>this week, I'll do another round of 4 or so, bringing machines from 2.1.5
>to 2.2-960801-SNAP up to 2.2-RELEASE, as soon as it stabilizes.

The first few upgrades I tried were dismal failures, something with
sysinstall, which seems to have been fixed.


>IMHO, you really must know what you are doing before building everything
>from scratch.  99% of the population just wants to upgrade, not rebuild
>everything and dedicate a 2GB disk to the job.  The prescribed upgrade
>instructions do this in the least painful way.  If you're doing this, I
>assume you're on hackers, stable, or current lists or have done this
>before.  

OK, but I would imagine that it would be a good idea to recompile some of
the packages, unless there is a new version.  Some standard things I do as
a package, usually from sysinstall.  Others have been customized, so I keep
the source out of the way of upgrades.

>We've gone to the pain of doing this for you -- unless you have need to
>build from edited source, save yourself and your computer some aspirin.  

Uh, no.  Not really.  8-)

>I upgraded my workstation from 2.1.6 (?) to 2.2-ALPHA without any real
>trauma, so the change should be very simple.  The sticky part is the
>config file merging.  They changed it for 2.2-GAMMA to make /etc/upgrade
>instead of munging the files, and it is confusing some people because
>suddenly, this glob of ipx stuff wants to start up... 

Sounds just like the upgrade to either 2.1.5(6?) and having to redo a
half-dozen files in /etc and I don't see this as a problem.  What I do have
a problem with is the default mode for skeykeys, which should be treated
just like master.passwd and spwd.db.  Once it is set it doesn't get
changed, but I do chmod a lot of things that users should not have execute
rights for, let alone read.  Easy enough to script this out.

>Hope this helps.  Of course, do what you feel is sufficient to upgrade
>your system.  It's your system, after all :)

Like remembering to link perl -> perl5.003

Teensy little problem for a few customers.

Thanks,


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Jeff Mountin - System/Network Administrator
jeff@mixcom.net

MIX Communications
Serving the Internet since 1990



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