Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:19:03 +0200 From: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> To: Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <54072357.40101@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <CAKFCL4Wbg-DUZoZrrbZS-stKD8x4U%2BO5KowMHDGxFWSr3qLdGA@mail.gmail.com> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <CAOFF%2BZ1MOr9-rYbwHYWqBKjMvRPwUnew4jThEoJ_WkoTmwyNsQ@mail.gmail.com> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <CAF-3MvNBWSEWF-HarwF0xcXQgo=7-dO%2BtvLMO1maELPY0RVhQQ@mail.gmail.com> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> <5406BD65.705@digsys.bg> <5406ED34.7090301@sorbs.net> <5406F00C.6090504@digsys.bg> <C4EC1A3A-6EB1-4EE1-ACEA-12C8E203991C@cs.huji.ac.il> <358B9E99-5E02-47BA-9E30-045986150966@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <540711FF.3050409@sorbs.net> <47F4AAAA-2D88-4F03-8602-880C4B129305@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <54072011.7030800@sorbs.net> <CAKFCL4Wbg-DUZoZrrbZS-stKD8x4U%2BO5KowMHDGxFWSr3qLdGA@mail.gmail.com>
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Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> > wrote: > > >> I think portsnap should provide 'stable' - tested, known >> working, security patched >> >> > > But the ports tree does not provide this and never has. Yes and with the exception of 6.x->7.x no one has come alone and made such a massive change that has deliberately broken build systems for production servers without good reason without any alternative whilst people migrate (and lets not start the 'well you had 2 years' thing again - I had less than 2 months notice that the EOL message was put there so that the packaging system (and therefore the ports tree) was going to be deliberately, irrevocably and irreversibly broken - and the person responsible was quite happy about it. ) > You want a > package-based distribution. > > I built my own because the defaults don't work for me. Now I don't have anything... and if I had been using packages the same person behind this change would have completely screwed all my production servers on the patching for (amongst other things) heartbleed when they decided to change the default for apache 2.2 to apache 2.4 without having mod_perl24 available first. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/
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