From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 22 17:19:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D33616A492 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5338743D46 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.62) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1GmvlI-0003rA-MG>; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:19:52 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.62) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1GmvlI-0000bm-LG>; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:19:52 +0100 Message-ID: <45648649.4000408@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:18:01 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org References: <20061122170002.GA2988@rabbit> In-Reply-To: <20061122170002.GA2988@rabbit> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: Re: DNS Performance Numbers X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:19:58 -0000 Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 04:43:49PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Mark Bucciarelli wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:52:47AM -0200, Marcelo Gardini do Amaral wrote: >>>> The results were discussed in the following threads: >>>> >>> I see the speed differences are major, but don't have a good >>> idea of what 15,000 DNS queries per second means. Is the >>> following interpretation correct? >>> >> Means: as I see the 'numbers', they roughly show the >> performance of an untuned TCP/IP stack and/or of the speed the >> kernel can handle the 'subject of being tested for'. > > [...] > >> My purposes for the specific OS may be not very common and not that >> specific to DNS. > > I'm going to build a DNS server in the next couple weeks, and the > difference between 6.1 and 4.11 in Marcelo's tests was dramatic. > > Are you saying Marcelo's test results do not apply to my > situation? > > Thanks, > > m No, I complain about the dramatic performance drainage of FreeBSD and would also say, that my main purpose for an UNIX driven box isn't the service for network like routing, DNS and others. But I'm frightened by the poor network performance when I have MPI in vi> > Thanks, > > m ew, for cheaper clusters GbE is still the common way of linking nodes and this will be my 'bottleneck'. So performance of the above shown tests may have the same dramatic impact to my purposes as to yours, b> > Thanks, > > m ut I do not know exactly. It is only a guess and it should in both cases be subject of more investigations. > > [...] > >> i did and do not care about 10% or 15% of > performance gain or >> drainage if I could stay with the familiar OS > > I agree 100% with this idea, and that is why I am trying to get a > better gut sense if this performance difference really matters > for my application (web and email servers). In some aspects I think this test we saw lead to some major problems and I would guess if the performance drainage of the DNS/network service is substantl, there will also be a overall drainage of performance, not even in one particular application aspect. Look at BIND and NDS, do they really suffer from the same systematic problem? If not, the performance drainage comapring UP/SMP and 4.11/6.X seems to be representative. Changing to Linux is an option, but the last one, because it will end a ten years 'friendship' with Berkeley UNIXes. Ok, don't want to be offending or a troll, stopping here ... Serious: I miss performance tests, test suits on which some operating system performance competitions could be made. In the past nearly every new release of any operating system was benchmarked but nowadays this seems to be subject of the specific persons who need to make decissions about the OS choice. Regards, Oliver