From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 31 09:41:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23517 for current-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23505; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id LAA28025; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:40:56 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199610311740.LAA28025@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Request to add this to FAQ re: swap space To: gpalmer@freebsd.org (Gary Palmer) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:40:56 -0600 (CST) Cc: rv@groa.uct.ac.za, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3932.846746988@orion.webspan.net> from "Gary Palmer" at Oct 31, 96 02:29:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Bearing in mind that I am not a memory expert and I have learned more this summer about memory than I did in the last five years... Rod is in a much better explanation to explain some of this as he has data books and real engineering knowledge of the subject) > Joe Greco wrote in message ID > <199610301517.JAA25891@brasil.moneng.mei.com>: > > However, at about $2000 per 64MB SIMM module, this is an expensive > > solution. > > Umm? When was that a price? RAM price now says that you should be able > to get a 60ns 16x36 72pin SIMM for a lot less (under $1k I'd have > thought) Yes, and I can still get 4x36's for ~$100.... so logically a 16x36 should be ~$500. You can actually get them for around that price. However, the ASUS manual specifies a maximum chip count of (I believe) 24, and the units you will get for this price WILL have 36 chips. Now the rest is mostly "IIRC"... I may not, exactly, because we actually tried a LOT of things - I will concentrate mostly on what did. ASUS P/E-P55T2P4D board: I believe that Curt and I found some 16-chip 32MB SIMM modules, and we tried loading the board up with 8 of them, for 256MB (the golden goal). It worked but suffered memory (NMI) problems on a daily basis. We removed four, and it worked great. "S***". We started looking for bad SIMM's, testing them on a real SIMM tester. No faults. We had also heard about "magic 36-chip SIMM" modules that were supposedly used by ASUS themselves and ASUS said they worked fine. I believe that these are the golden $2000 SIMM modules we are currently using. I won't go into the 9-chip SIMM's we toyed with, or any of the other less-than-successful attempts.. etc... If ANYONE has a source for RAM that REALLY works .. :-) ... JG