From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 9 17:51:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDAD16A41F; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C5B43D49; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j79HpSQO004858; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:51:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j79HpSuj008251; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:51:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j79HpSMA008250; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:51:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:51:28 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20050809175128.GA8230@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200508081956.j78Jui1l095716@gw.catspoiler.org> <42F7BA45.4040700@root.org> <20050809083839.GD9970@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050809083839.GD9970@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, Don Lewis , csjp@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, Nate Lawson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_sysctl.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:51:31 -0000 On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 06:38:39PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote.. > On Mon, 2005-Aug-08 13:02:13 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: > >Don Lewis wrote: > >>On 8 Aug, Christian S.J. Peron wrote: > >>> memory. This can result in a number of different locking issues, > >>> including dead locks. > > > >One other thing: I don't think this should be MFCd before 6.0. It's > >possible that there are some drivers that violate this rule and having a > >release trigger panics is bad. This is the same reason we turn off > >INVARIANTS for releases. > > I personally think panics are preferable to deadlocks. At least with a > panic, it's obvious that something went wrong, and you have a fighting > chance of finding out why. Having a computer freeze for no apparent > reason is extremely frustrating - especially if it does so gradually. > > If necessary, we can always set the console background to blue and/or > call it a "guru meditation message" :-) A meditating beastie... hmm.. interesting thought.. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org