From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 23:58:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBDE16A4CE; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from praetor.linc-it.com (adsl-068-157-070-217.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [68.157.70.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7626D43D5A; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:58:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-19-157-169.jan.bellsouth.net [68.19.157.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by praetor.linc-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F481521C; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:58:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1993720F2A; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:58:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 01:58:11 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Avleen Vig Message-ID: <20040108075811.GJ48603@over-yonder.net> References: <20040107235737.I32227@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108075059.GK53429@silverwraith.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040108075059.GK53429@silverwraith.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i-fullermd.1 X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:58:18 -0000 On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:50:59PM -0800 I heard the voice of Avleen Vig, and lo! it spake thus: > > While it is indeed true that most machines since 1997 will support this > CD format, please take in to account: And, further, some of us don't have (and don't want) CD burners, and even if we had 'em, don't want to burn (no pun intended ;) a CD blank just to install an OS, when we can just (re-)use 2 floppies and do it across the LAN from a local FTP mirror, which is as fast as a CD drive anyway. It seems to me that we could split more out into modules, and/or add more disks of modules (maybe categorize a "storage device" modules disk, a "network drivers" modules disk, etc, keeping just the more common devices in the main kernel). Last I saw, the current system only created a single modules disk, which was a godsend to a kernel overflowing one disk, but as we add more and more stuff becomes another, albeit larger, noose. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet"