Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:31:07 -0500 From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: FreeBSD - Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: My thoughts on the list as of late... Message-ID: <18af7a81a56c378819040f8ea00170a6@chrononomicon.com> In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNIEGGFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> References: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNIEGGFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
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On Feb 12, 2005, at 7:19 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris >> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 4:11 AM >> To: FreeBSD - Questions >> Subject: OT: My thoughts on the list as of late... >> >> >> As I read *some* (mainly because there is far too much crap going in, >> and not enough decent content coming out) of the postings, I reflect >> back on my personal views on mankind as a whole. >> >> Being of a cynical nature - I tend to look at things with a >> "there must >> be a reason for this influx of crapoloa in". >> >> I come up with, divide and conquer. I'm starting to see a pattern in >> this list. Far too many users bickering about; >> >> 1. FreeBSD vs. (insert OS here) >> 2. 4.xx is better then 5.xx >> 3. Ports are crappy compared to ... >> 4. Too many dependencies compared to ... >> 5. FreeBSD is on SORBS ... what next? >> >> Etc. etc. etc. I suppose this could be just one big pissing contest, >> then again (being cynical) I tend to think it's a select "group" of >> users that are set out to divide and conquer. >> >> Keep the list in termoil, keep them bashing whom or whatever, >> keep them >> distracted from the real goals - so that when potential users want to >> investigate *BSD, they see the turmoil going on within the *BSD lists. >> >> Could that be a turn off to the potential new-comer? Very possible. >> Am I on target with this cynical point of view? Probably not however, >> ask yourself after reading a few weeks of the garbage that seeps into >> this list then pose that question again. >> >> I suppose it is all just coincidence that the list has become >> messy over >> the last few months. But is seems to me that it has increased more so >> since the posting on the FreeBSD site relating to the "Deep Study". >> >> Again, I'm not pointing fingers. Nor am I creating an innuendo. I'm >> simply drawing conclusions based on my view points and I >> thought I might >> share them in hopes that perhaps some of us will not respond to what I >> think are baiting posts. >> > > Good thoughts - now, I have to ask the obligatory "Is there a question > somewhere here" before someone else does. > > You do realize that without asking one, you are participating in the > non-question-based discussion you are trying to argue against, right? Here's a question...could it not be the byproduct of the same growth in signal-to-noise that has been rising ever since the Internet became popular among the non-academic crowd? As more Joe Normals join up to this Internet phenomena thing, there is an expected growth in all these lists not being used purely as they were meant to be used? At a hundred posts a day, there are many many threads I skip or delete without reading. If the subject doesn't show something that I may be able to glean some information from or contribute something to...*blip*...gone. People complaining about the noise might want to hit delete more often. Then again, that's what I used to say ten years ago about SPAM... -Bart
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