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Date:      Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:50:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Umesh Krishnaswamy <umesh@juniper.net>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/28465: Enabling softupdates on a clean but active filesystem can panic the kernel
Message-ID:  <200106272250.f5RMoB291752@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR kern/28465; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Umesh Krishnaswamy <umesh@juniper.net>
To: Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: kern/28465: Enabling softupdates on a clean but active filesystem can panic the kernel
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:50:05 -0700

 On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 03:45:30PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote:
 > Umesh Krishnaswamy <umesh@juniper.net> writes:
 > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 03:01:01PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote:
 > > > Umesh Krishnaswamy <umesh@juniper.net> writes:
 > > > > 
 > > > > >Number:         28465
 > > > > >Category:       kern
 > > > > >Synopsis:       Enabling softupdates on a clean but active filesystem can pa
 > > > > >Description:
 > > > > If you do a bunch of reads and writes to a filesystem, then mount it
 > > > > rdonly and enable softupdates, tunefs will allow you to do so, but 
 > > > > the kernel will panic shortly afterwords with the following stack trace.
 > > > 
 > > > I think the real bug is that downgrading to read-only doesn't work
 > > > properly.
 > > 
 > > If that is the case, then we should patch tunefs to check if the
 > > filesystem is active. This patch can be applied to RELENG_4. The
 > > mainline code is slightly different.
 > 
 > All this does is cover up the bug, and makes it harder for someone to
 > fix it by making them go hack tunefs :-).  Unix traditionally allows
 > the user to do silly things.  Of course, this isn't documented as a
 > silly thing; that should probably be fixed.  Of course, all of this is
 > assuming that my assertion that downgrading to read-only doesn't work
 > as it should; it may have been fixed since I experimented with it, and
 > what you're seeing may be entirely different.
 > 
 > Your patch also has a multitude of style bugs, such as four-space
 > primary indents and lines over 80 characters.
 > 
 
 Fine, don't use it. I would rather see the softdep fixed rather than
 tunefs. 
 
 Umesh.
 
 > 					Dima Dorfman
 > 					dima@unixfreak.org

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