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Date:      Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:20:26 +0800
From:      Kevin Lo <kevlo@FreeBSD.org>
To:        gljennjohn@googlemail.com
Cc:        x11@FreeBSD.org, Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>
Subject:   Re: Add a dependency on xclock
Message-ID:  <1293171626.2086.23.camel@nsl>
In-Reply-To: <20101223181840.1a8fd266@ernst.jennejohn.org>
References:  <1293116676.2258.9.camel@nsl> <201012231531.oBNFVNG8037456@lurza.secnetix.de> <20101223181840.1a8fd266@ernst.jennejohn.org>

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Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:31:23 +0100 (CET)
> Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de> wrote:
> 
> > Kevin Lo wrote:
> >  > Oliver Fromme wrote:
> >  > > Kevin Lo wrote:
> >  > > > Sometimes I only installed the xorg metaport x11/xorg on my FreeBSD.
> >  > > > When I quit the X window, there's a message on the console:
> >  > > > 
> >  > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: xclock: not found
> >  > > > 
> >  > > > I think it makes sense to add dependency on xclock, what do you think?
> >  > > 
> >  > > There are dozens of different clocks in ports/x11-clocks.
> >  > > I don't think it makes sense to install one of them by
> >  > > default just because it's mentioned as an example in the
> >  > > xinitrc template.  If someone really wants the "classic"
> >  > > xclock (I'm trying to avoid the word "ancient"), he can
> >  > > install it himself.  This should be a conscious decision,
> >  > > not an automatism.
> >  > > 
> >  > > In my opinion, the xorg meta port already installs many
> >  > > things that most people never need.  Personally, I have
> >  > > stopped using the meta port and install only the parts
> >  > > that I need.  This is a little more work in the beginning,
> >  > > but it saves time in the long run when keeping things up
> >  > > to date.  On my workstation, it cut down the number of
> >  > > packages by about 200 (from 700 down to 500).
> >  > 
> >  > You missed the point. Do you have any idea Why flz@ committed 
> >  > this patch ?
> >  > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2009-January/163841.html
> > 
> > How is that related to xclock?
> > 
> 
> Indirectly in that it re-adds xinit, which installs xinitrc, which is
> what started this whole thread.

That's exactly what I mean :-) 

> OP could probably solve the whole dilemma by doing "touch ~/.xinitrc"

Right. I also have some newbies asked me why xlock wasn't installed
after they have xorg meta-port installed. Shouldn't it take care of 
dependencies? Since some people got confused about that message, 
that's why I proposed adding dependency on x11-clocks/xclock.

	Kevin





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