From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 19 15:32:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8221065679 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34128FC08 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.36]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5093B5A664 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:32:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8D8D7BA6 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:32:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (dslb-092-075-207-206.pools.arcor-ip.net [92.75.207.206]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21C451080C0 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:32:17 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-07.arcor-online.net 21C451080C0 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAJFWGDh039627 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:32:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id oAJFWGQY039626 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:32:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4CE5280E.3090009@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <86wro9e6e4.fsf@gmail.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mk/bsd.command.mk: missing CSH tag X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:32:19 -0000 Eir Nym wrote: > >>> Since when? If you are missing /bin/csh, your system is defective > >>> or at least nonstandard. > >> > >> It is good joke, thanks > > > > I guess he's talking about the ports tree being too fragile for some > > non-default configurations and not many people are willing to fix it. > > I understand this. Port can check this (because it is optional system > component) and use another or generate error. This is very confusing. One of us is out of sync with reality. (If it's me, I'd like to know.) Your confident claim that csh is optional is like stating that the sky is green and the sun is purple. Did I miss something? Yes, I know there is a WITHOUT_TCSH knob. You can use this when you build a FreeBSD-based embedded system where you know you won't need csh. In no way does the existence of this knob imply that csh is optional on a standard FreeBSD system where you build ports. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de