From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Apr 3 16: 1: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 643AA37B43D for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 88620 invoked by uid 100); 4 Apr 2002 00:00:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15531.38785.141595.336871@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:00:01 -0600 To: "Randall Hamilton" Cc: "Anthony Atkielski" , Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix In-Reply-To: <004901c1db69$9a1cc3f0$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> References: <20020402113404.A52321@lpt.ens.fr> <3CA9854E.A4D86CC4@mindspring.com> <20020402123254.H49279@lpt.ens.fr> <009301c1da83$9fa73170$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15530.6987.977637.574551@guru.mired.org> <012601c1dadb$104d5100$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.2846.277278.29276@guru.mired.org> <005e01c1db44$e10d2a40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.27851.19169.720598@guru.mired.org> <001301c1db55$7c883950$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> <009201c1db5e$41b1baa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.33743.830853.456500@guru.mired.org> <000f01c1db68$0bbad580$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> <15531.37605.851236.651200@guru.mired.org> <004901c1db69$9a1cc3f0$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.50 (Python 2.2 on FreeBSD/i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <004901c1db69$9a1cc3f0$0301a8c0@NITEDOG>, Randall Hamilton typed: > > In <000f01c1db68$0bbad580$0301a8c0@NITEDOG>, Randall Hamilton > typed: > > > i mean really...whats the alternitive? X? > > > while thats a good joke...i prefer to use something that every single > peice > > > of random hardware i need to use works without having to deal with it > > > constantly..i LIKE all my usb devices...i like that they work instanly. > i > > > LIKE games..and the fact that 95% do NOT work under unix is an > issue(they > > > should NOT work under unix..its a server os after all). > > Ah, I see. You want a game machine. I can't argue that Windows works > > better for playing games than Unix, which is why my kids run it. While > > they complain about it crashing to often, it does what they need done. > you are also forgetting the hardware aspect. 10x more hardware is supported > in windowsland..and to debate that would be rather silly. i have around 4 > usb devices..none of which work in unix. as for the gaming aspect...yes..i > play games on desktops. moreso for the online capabilities that consoles > have yet to offer. sure they have some feeble attempts...but its completly > lacking when compared to the pc online realm. No, I'm not forgetting it, but as the man said, "there are advantages that outweigh that." All the hardware I need to work works. Sure, I may have to buy from a more limited set than you do, but the small set I use is includes everything I need, which is all that matters. > of course. i define a 'desktop' as an every day use machine. a machine that > has a wide number of roles to play...audio..video..hardware..games..business > applications..etc etc. basiclly..an end user machine that has to bear the > title of 'multirole' a desktop machine does just about everything...but > generally nothing the best. its an avarage class discription i have used for > 10 years or so. > > a workstation is excatly that. a machine built and setup to do work specific > tasks. the tasks may change...but its a specilized setup...geared at the job > its givin. it does not have to do nor contend with the mirad of other > features that a desktop does..so it does it's 1-2 jobs extremly well. > > hope that clears that up for ya. Yes, it does. What you're calling a desktop I'd call a home machine. What you're calling workstation I'd call a server with a GUI interface. You've dropped the entire class of machines between those two ends, which includes all the machines that businesses put on their employees desktops so they can get work done. They aren't geared to a specific task, but are available for all the tasks that employee does does. They generally don't need audio or video, and games clearly have no place on them. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message