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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:21:46 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Heimdal in base
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[See
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2015-November/008747.h=
tml
for the bits that Dag-Erling skipped]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:

> Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> writes:
> > Things seem to have slowed down a lot since the lead Heimdal developer
> > got hired for Apple.  [...]  MIT employs developers whose job
> > descriptions include being the krb5 release manager [...]  Heimdal has
> > changed plans to a 1.7 release [...] and since the developers in
> > question are being paid to work on other things, there is no real
> > timeline for the release.
>
> Given this state of affairs, it might not be unreasonable to consider
> switching back for 11.  There should be enough time, provided our
> Kerberos maintainers have some spare cycles.

Well, it's definitely too late for 11, now.

But, Debian is preparing to remove their heimdal package entirely,
imminently: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D837728

I also can't find an archive of heimdal-discuss@sics.se that still works
(now that gmane is gone), so I'll quote the relevant message from there,
below.

Maybe we should consider dropping heimdal for 12.

-Ben

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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:58:27 -0400
From: Andrew Bartlett <abartlet@samba.org>
To: heimdal-discuss@sics.se
Subject: Heimdal to be removed from Debian shortly

FYI:
I'm sorry to say that per:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D834654
and
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D837728

Heimdal will shortly be removed from Debian.
It is the view of those
of us involved that inclusion of sensitive security software in the
next stable release of Debian needs the normal pattern of maintained
upstream releases, not just a git tree to take snapshots from.

It is also being eased out of Samba, we will make further decisions
once we get a build against MIT krb5 working.

Sorry,

Andrew Bartlett
--
Andrew Bartlett                         http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Authentication Developer, Samba Team    http://samba.orgSamba Developer,
Catalyst IT            http://catalyst.net.nz/services/samba
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On 13 Sep 2016, at 17:07, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>
> One set of such decisions has to do with the following files:
>
>     ~ftp/etc/group
>     ~ftp/etc/pwd.db
>
> Thinking about how the contents of these files affects the behavior of
> the ftp DIR command caused me to realize that I actually would prefer
> it if there were some some option available for ftpd which would cause
> it to display only something like ---- where it currently attempts to
> print either a user ID name or number or a group ID name or number.

Those files completely under the control of the sysadmin (aka "you"),
so you can put whatever you want in those files.  In my case, I think
I wrote a script which generates those two files from the real system
files, but it changes the userid and group names.  In my case I went
with fake userid's which were the first-and-last letters of the real
userid, followed by the UID.  That way there's some helpful information
there for the people who *do* have access to the passwd info for that
machine, but there isn't much info for others.

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Garance Alistair Drosehn                =     drosih@rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer               or   gad@FreeBSD.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;             Troy, NY;  USA



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