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Date:      Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:51:13 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Pat Lynch <lynch@rush.net>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        jgrosch@mooseriver.com, Nick Hibma <nick.hibma@jrc.it>, FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: solaris is free.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980812074847.12071L-100000@bytor.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <19980812194840.M28142@lemis.com>

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yeh, I've had no problems with Solaris x86 at all, at IDT we used to run
it for the IRC server, and a few other things (including the new GEnie
stuff) (I no longer work there, thank god)

I run this machine at home triple boot 98/FreeBSD/Solx86 and its not bad
either....

I still prefer FreeBSD though.... 

its also not *too* much of a "forgotten child" at Sun since they are
pusing Solaris for Intel lately alot more than they used to....

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Pat Lynch						lynch@rush.net
Systems Administrator					Rush Networking

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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:

> (following up to -chat, where it belonged from the start)
> 
> On Wednesday, 12 August 1998 at  2:29:37 -0700, Josef Grosch wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 11:06:25AM +0200, Nick Hibma wrote:
> >>>> Note that this is only free in the sense that you can buy it
> >>>> for a low cost from Sun.
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't get source.
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't get the ability to give copies to other people.
> >>>
> >>> My guess is that Sun is beginning to feel the heat from FreeBSD and
> >>> Linux. Last time I looked very few people we running Solaris on X86. Mayby
> >>> they are starting to worry about all those older Sparc's running NetBSD.
> >>
> >> To be honest, x86 SOlaris has always been a bit a forgotten child in the
> >> Sun family.
> >
> > Given the speed of Solaris on x86 I'm not surprised. When I was contracting
> > at Sun earlier this year I went around installing FreeBSD on machines that
> > were running Solaris. Even hard core Sun people were surprised at how much
> > faster FreeBSD ran.
> 
> I had lunch with a group of ISPs today, and two of them were telling
> me how they had more or less completed their migration from Linux to
> FreeBSD, mainly because of the stability of FreeBSD SCSI support.  One
> thing they were really missing was kernel threads: they found that a
> Linux box maxed out at about 25 hits per second, and the same box
> would pass 90 hits per second because of kernel threading.  They
> hadn't been able to max it out under FreeBSD, but there was no reason
> to believe it would perform as well as Solaris.
> 
> Solaris isn't all bad.  I'm getting the feeling that threads and MP
> support are going to make or break FreeBSD.
> 
> Greg
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