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Date:      Tue, 21 Apr 2020 21:02:01 +0200
From:      Tomasz CEDRO <>
To:        Polytropon <>
Cc:        Paul Pathiakis <>, Robert Huff <>,  FreeBSD <>, "@lbutlr" <>
Subject:   Re: Wayland on FreeBSD
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:13 PM Polytropon  wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:43:01 +0000 (UTC), Paul Pathiakis wrote:
> >  :D  I love it when I see reactions to problems like this on FreeBSD.... :D
> Let's just imagine Wayland on FreeBSD + Enlightenment to
> become a FreeBSD-native (!) desktop environment with GUI
> integreation for OS configuration and control... :-)
> Yes, I know, this can (partially) be done with Xfce, Gnome,
> KDE, Lxde, but more or less, that is fighting Linuxisms
> and still being stuck with stuff that has been abandoned
> in Linux world many years ago (think about HAL and DBus).
> The degree of incompatibility could be increasing if the
> modern development of desktop environments will concentrate
> on Linux as the target, and on FreeBSD, you can only get
> 3/4 of what's technically possible.

EFL is fully independent GUI framework created to run on smart
embedded systems (particulary TizenOS), so the efficiency, memory
footprint, and stuff like that are included by design - for instance
things are compressed on the disk, then only needed part is
uncompressed into memory. I was really astonished that people still
think that way. Its like watching stuff from 80's that were designed
and optimized for Atari or Amiga :-) That matches the BSD philosophy
of efficency and independence. Most of the code is BSD, modules are
LGPL.. there is one GPL module that not necessarily needs to be
included. This is why I got interested in :-)

Enlightenment is based on EFL. I feel like time traveled 20+ years
back, at least, with all new features available :-)

Also the developers of EFL / E are very responsive and open for
porting BSD stuff inside :-)


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