From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 11 11:04:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA13734 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from iafnl.es.iaf.nl (uucp@iafnl.es.iaf.nl [195.108.17.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA13680 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA25216 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG); Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:03:39 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA01376; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:29:32 +0100 (MET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199711111829.TAA01376@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Newest Pentium bug (fatal) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:29:32 +0100 (MET) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, helbig@Informatik.BA-Stuttgart.DE, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <17165.879196838@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 10, 97 01:20:38 pm X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote... > > > Well, since I own a "Multia" and not a "Miata", I don't really get > > how understanding the "Miata" would help me port to the "Multia", > > so perhaps you could explain it to me... > > The other people in the ALPHA project have Miatas. Your Multia is > thus of little concern to them. > > > As SEF would say, "Pot. Kettle. Black.". > > > > There's a very simple way to keep me from grinding axes: take them > > away from me, leaving me nothing to grind. If you weren't always > > such an immovable object, then I wouldn't have to try to be an > > irresistable force to get you to move... > > Terry, when will you learn? People aren't just sitting on their > thumbs waiting for Terry The Great Motivator to kick them into action, > there are other major stumbling blocks in the way which are > drastically impeding progress, one such being the fact that Digital > has been completely and totally unable to provide *any* technical > documentation on these machines! NetBSD also doesn't run on them, so Please stop bitching. What do you need for Miata docs? I can look at work (yes, at Digital) to see what publically redistributable docs I can come up with. Just tell me exactly what boards/machines you have and I'll give it my best shot. > we can't even look "next door" for a peek at what's going on under > their hood, so to speak, and the fact that they run DUX is of little > use since DUX doesn't come with source code. You have to sign with your own blood to even take a look at the source... > If you really want to help then either get some documentation out of > Digital using your direct pipeline to God (of course Terry talks > directly to God, hasn't everyone here realized that by now? ;-) or > get us a free source code license to Digital Unix so that we can > crib code from them. Thank you, no need to call me God. Wilko will do ;-) Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl http://www.tcja.nl/~wilko |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands - Do, or do not. There is no 'try' ---------------- Support your local daemons: run [Free,Net]BSD Unix --Yoda