Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:45:15 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb/umass, devfs: this sucks Message-ID: <20071226153541.S88508@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <2C4BA76BE60FC029360155FE@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> References: <200712212341.44308@aldan> <200712221313.lBMDDx5M036478@lava.sentex.ca> <200712260038.11546@aldan> <20071226062508.GA85141@parts-unknown.org> <2C4BA76BE60FC029360155FE@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local>
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On December 25, 2007 10:25:08 PM -0800 David Benfell > <benfell@parts-unknown.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:38:11 -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>> >>> If we want people to give FreeBSD a try in good faith, it is both >>> profoundly stupid and dishonest on our part to claim, we have a >>> working USB-system... It does not matter, how great our buffer-sharing >>> VM is, if a home user can't process their photos with a >>> FreeBSD-powered computer. > > To the OP of this thread - generalized statements like this aren't very > helpful. I have a USB mouse and a USB keyboard, both of which work fine and > always have. Well, me too, and a USB scanner which works well. But I understand the frustration. Lately, I was trying to use a card reader with a too-long USB cable. Not only did that not work, but it could slow the system down to nothing or panic it. Fixed with a powered hub... It seems like we need another kind of storage, something that is known to be only mostly data-safe. If the system would gracefully handle unexpected media removals, that would be nice. Not everything is a trustworthy hard drive. The user ought to be able to tell the system "Yes, da0s1 is an msdos filesystem which I'm going to be yanking out at unexpected times. Yes, I know it might lose some data, but at least figure things out and don't panic." -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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