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Date:      Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:51:20 +0100
From:      "Jamie Heckford" <jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk>
To:        <bmah@freebsd.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4 
Message-ID:  <012601c20e32$c92c6a00$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD>
References:  <LAW2-F136kUuTwDRzXI00005774@hotmail.com> <200206071447.g57ElqBZ001996@intruder.bmah.org>

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Hi,

Not sure if this is planned or if it has been done... but is there any
chance we can have sendmail
removed (In the next release cycle - or -current)  from a base installation
completly perl style?

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
To: "Kenneth Mays" <kmays2000@hotmail.com>
Cc: <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Viewpoint on 4.6RC4


> If memory serves me right, "Kenneth Mays" wrote:
>
> > My only request is that we get to test these applications and
> > have some of them become the default applications in the base system:
>
> Hi Ken--
>
> Thanks for the feedback, but it's way too late to be suggesting feature
> improvements for 4.6-RELEASE.  The time to make suggestions like this is
> at the start of the release cycle, not the end.  Please see the schedule
> for 4.6-RELEASE:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html
>
> The releases are not about making newer versions of programs available
> for testing.  They're about making available the best-tested, most
> dependable code we're able to provide, within engineering and logistical
> constraints.  If you want to test new stuff *and* you can deal with
> possible breakage, try -STABLE or -CURRENT.
>
> That being said, many of the programs you've listed are already in the
> ports collection that will ship with 4.6-RELEASE.  They might not be
> identical to what might eventually show up in the base system (due to
> some changes, bugfixes, etc. that get made by our developers when
> integrating them).
>
> > 1. NTP 4.1.1a
>
> /usr/ports/net/ntp
>
> > 2. Sendmail 8.12.4
>
> Very recent...I didn't even know this existed until a couple days back.
> It was added to the ports collection after the ports freeze.
>
> > 3. tar 1.13.25 or whatever is the most updated 'stable' version.
>
> /usr/ports/archivers/gtar
>
> > 4. GCC 2.95.3 & 3.1 selections in GUI (whatever is the most reliable)
>
> /usr/ports/lang/gcc295
> /usr/ports/lang/gcc31
>
> > 5. OpenSSH 3.2.3 and OpenSSL 0.9.6c/d
>
> That OpenSSH release is pretty recent.  I don't think it made the ports
> freeze either.
>
> /usr/ports/security/openssl
>
> > 6. Samba 2.2.4
>
> Not in the base system.
>
> /usr/ports/net/samba
>
> > 7. Nvidia recent drivers (test these with Xfree86 4.2.x) on
Quadro/geforce
> > boards
>
> Don't know about these.  If we ship them, it'd be in ports, not the
> base system.
>
> > I just notice that this was some of the current issues we are having
besides
> > the basic/advanced base system testing. Some of this was already done
but
> > listed here for reference.
> >
> > I know FreeBSD isn't intended to be a Solaris 9 for the free world (or
is
> > it?!?) and I know we all have problems with hardware issues (the most
> > common). Is there an easier way to put all our issues together in a
simple
> > doc to compile the information needed to make improvements for the 4.6
> > release?!?
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand these two paragraphs.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Bruce.
>
>
>
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