From owner-freebsd-security Tue Aug 27 5:45:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DC837B400 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.FreeBSD.org.uk [194.242.157.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7518E43E6A for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.org) Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (uucp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7RCj78C095338; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:45:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with UUCP id g7RCj7Yu095337; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:45:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7RCiBl5019984; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:44:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.org) Message-Id: <200208271244.g7RCiBl5019984@grimreaper.grondar.org> To: Bart Matthaei Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Administrivia: Discussion - Making this list subscriber-only References: <20020827122623.GC34393@heresy.dreamflow.nl> In-Reply-To: <20020827122623.GC34393@heresy.dreamflow.nl> ; from Bart Matthaei "Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:26:23 +0200." Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:44:11 +0100 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I would very much like to make this list subscriber-only. This will > > cut down dramatically on spam and the inevitable misdirected > > 'subscribe' postings. The downside is that folks will not be able > > to reply to the list if they receive it via a list redirector (IE > > if a corporate role account/list-alias has been used to subscribe). > > In this case, those folks would become read-only members (which may > > in some cases be OK). Other folks would need to subscribe to the > > list with their 'real' email address. > > I dissagree with the idea of making this list subscriber-only. There > are people who mail to this list with a single question, and without > subscribing to the list. If you make this list subscriber-only, you > are forcing these people to subscribe. I personally hate it when I > have to subscribe to a list when I only have one single report or > question. You are missing the point of the list :-). This is _not_ a questions list. This is a discussions list. If you have a one-off question, there are places to ask it. If you wish to discuss, then there is no problem with subscribing, no? One-off reports fall into 3 categories; 1) bugs, 2) build problems and 3) critical security holes. Each of these has its place in an existing list: 1) bugs (via send-pr), 2) -current or -stable, 3) security-officer. > If you want to get rid of spam, just get a spamfilter, and stop > complaining, because the actual discussion about spam is more annoying > than the spam itself. We already have that. Spammers are very inventive when it comes to evading filters. M -- o Mark Murray \_ O.\_ Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message