From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 14 12:53:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEB616A4DD; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from postman.atlantis.dp.ua (postman.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F325043D68; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:53:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from smtp.atlantis.dp.ua (smtp.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.46.231]) by postman.atlantis.dp.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k7ECqqpm062250; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:52:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:52:52 +0300 (EEST) From: Dmitry Pryanishnikov To: Andrey Chernov In-Reply-To: <20060814124528.GB28932@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: <20060814154640.R28464@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> References: <200608141221.k7ECLwHq069066@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060814124528.GB28932@nagual.pp.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Ruslan Ermilov , cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/tmac Makefile X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:53:04 -0000 Hello! On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> - Touch /usr/share/tmac/man.local if it already exists. > > It is definitely bad habbit touching the files to marking them not > obsoleted. Many developers including me use 'INSTALL = install -C' which > not touch files when not needed, so we have correct date of the actual > last file change. With that your touching those files will falsely looks > updated. Please back it out. Note that this commit does _not_ touch the file. As I've shown in my previous letter, ':>>$file' will _not_ change file's modification time. Maybe, we should avoid spelling ':>>' as a 'touch' in the commit log to prevent such a confusion? BTW, knowing that ':>>$file' doesn't change modification time, I'm really curiuos what this ".else / :>> / .endif" really does? Isn't this a plain NOOP?! Sincerely, Dmitry -- Atlantis ISP, System Administrator e-mail: dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua nic-hdl: LYNX-RIPE