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Date:      Mon, 9 Jan 2006 05:32:48 -0600
From:      Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= <gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu>, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, speedydemon@shadowdev.org, Frank Laszlo <laszlof@vonostingroup.com>
Subject:   Flash Petition (Was Re: FreeBSD as a Desktop Article)
Message-ID:  <ef10de9a0601090332l3093fbe3j8a6234aeb74e6d59@mail.gmail.com>

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On 1/8/06, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:
>
> > On 1/5/06, Frank Laszlo <laszlof@vonostingroup.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> K=F6vesd=E1n G=E1bor wrote:
> >>> Nikolas Britton wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 1/4/06, James Cornell <speedydemon@shadowdev.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> never mind, I just made one so go sign it!!!
> >>>> http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> I've signed it and posted it to a Hungarian open-source community, bu=
t
> >>> I think it would be nice if somebody from the doc team can add it to
> >>> the news on the website, so I cc'd freebsd-doc@, I hope this helps
> >>> geting Adobe to release a working Flash for FreeBSD.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Gabor Kovesdan
> >>
> >> Not to rain on the parade, but since when has one of those online
> >> petitions done any good?
> >>
> >
> > It may be trivial but at least I did something to rectify it. Talking
> > about are problems will get us nowhere unless we also do. Do you have
> > a better plan of action?
>
> The problem is, anyone can sign a petition, even those that don't, nor
> will ever, use the software, which is what makes them meaningless :(
>
> You really need to get someone on the inside that is using FreeBSD and
> push from that direction ... unless its a product you can pay for, and
> then you make the dollars speak for you ...

I make all IT, purchasing, decisions at my company. I suspect most
other senior IT folk also make or have strong influence in,
purchasing, decisions at their company's. What are the demographics
for people who use FreeBSD? I suspect a higher then normal percentage
of senior IT folk make up the ranks. Here's an excellent example of
the point I'm trying to make: Last year my company wanted to build a
flash website. I put my foot down and said no, not everyone can use or
see flash websites. Macromedia lost a $999 dollar sale.

>
> What about the FreeBSD Foundation ... maybe something that they can
> organize?

I'm all for that and other organisations getting involved, maybe they
can actually do something too.



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