From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 27 22:54:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9BD5DC for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9961879 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fs12so16713547lab.11 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=KJcS3n1n/tkS26G8Xjk3lram94Qyq9tWoqvW/IiMouM=; b=XrqwVcfwdCn7QdBydej+NVrS8oBU5tjolQcJ3NWIWPLpraazLRKuciJoGVncyNJumw /LXg9uHF7pLwkwyRL6dp3BLuJ0nYrEWPga2aObsyVurGsOoHKcn9Ou3IuExLLRYA94jA 1uNVkWGfGnAM23Tb5jGOed4ad7hdoNIxvAlH/UV2O++k5HJ0HBLQJiU3wab2thDZpUfD YbsvEr4712r/vh4PhFHxbhZZrTbooEpHy7hFyvxo/4T1onkfdDzbufrHMbLoBi2FgQFj Gg72SymNchpmXDmBnN2OZyGYxGKei5PKhbxnnySEiSAspjxfZeM5KOwZiL4F0wIbyKoG 0Aqg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.69.75 with SMTP id c11mr11019836lbu.119.1364424838570; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.8.40 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.169.51] In-Reply-To: <51535897.3000901@gmail.com> References: <51535897.3000901@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:53:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: The future of USENET? From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Joshua Isom X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlHZE+LW67ApqNLMQHJXSzF9nkIlcV3WcvSTc09r5GYp33bI64PDCTFxMVTtCjdhlZuKHGp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:54:00 -0000 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 3/27/2013 3:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > >> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:12:06 -0400, grarpamp wrote: >> >> Now there are very few, if any, free servers >>> >> >> There are still free news servers available. My ISP bundles usenet, >> nevertheless I prefer the free one as it's faster and more reliable. >> >> > The last ISP I knew had usenet complained about the bandwidth and storage > required. If they carried alt.binaries.*, then yes: it was a legitimate concern. To carry those groups requires enormous bandwidth, and bandwidth costs money, a lot of money. Storage isn't really an issue though.., even with smallish retention periods of 60 days or so. That's what commercial Usenet providers a la Giganews are for: they have some very big pipes and the necessary storage infrastructure for many-years retention, and can pay for all this through their subscribers fees. I see no problems that regular ISPs dropped Usenet as part of their standard offering, as long as alternatives such as those Usenet providers are available for a couple of bucks per month to those who need them. > They had a dedicated satellite instead of using their backbone, and only > cached a couple days. All the porn and warez has the side affect of wiping > out the cost benefit. > -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/