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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 20:43:55 -0000 I have all these boards... But they are getting old and nearly are unobtanium these days. Were it not for the clocks thing, they'd be fine to run -current (I have a slightly pre new clock version running on a couple of boards). I think I'm with you: we need a maintainer who has done the work to bring them up to date, or they need to go. We likely have other house cleaning that's needed in arm as well, but I'll keep this discussion clean. Warner On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > Hello arm@ > > I don't like to send this email but ... > > I want to remove A10/A20/A31 support for FreeBSD 12, here is the > reason why : > > - I don't have time to maintain thoses SoC > - For A10/A20 we currently don't boot on it since it requires new > clocks binding (handled by aw_ccung) and I have no time to do the > switch. > - H3 (which is 32bits too) is way better in term of performance and > price, you can buy a "good" $10 board while getting an A20 will cost > you more for some reason. > - My A31 board (BananapiM1) just died today after a long time of being > my arm32 reference board. > - I don't want the code to stay like the old 32 bits rockchip or > amlogic code that can't even boot nowadays. > > If someone want to step up and convert A10/A20 to ccung I'll be > glad to help/review but if no one step up it's unreasonable for me to > support those right now and I prefer to remove completely the support. > > The plan is to remove support in one month (July 12th) if there is no > volunteer to update the current code. > > Cheers, > > -- > Emmanuel Vadot > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >