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Date:      Mon, 1 Jul 1996 03:04:25 -0500
From:      "Bradley Dunn" <dunn@harborcom.net>
To:        Brian Tao <taob@io.org>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is "routed -q" necessary?
Message-ID:  <199607010709.DAA29232@ns2.harborcom.net>

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[moved to chat because I don't think what I have to say has much to 
do with security :)]

If you want a classless (well, actually what you are referring to is 
VLSM, because RIP *could* handle a /25, as long as the mask is the 
same for all interfaces on the subnet) protocol, I would recommend
OSPF. RIP2 is certainly much better than RIP, but it still inferior to
OSPF. Grab the gated port and fire it up. Configuration is a little
more difficult, but for simple networks things do no get too
complicated. To answer your question, with gated you can set up a
static route for your default, and add the retain keyword so that it
doesn't go away. I don't know about routed, I've always used gated. 

Another reason I would not recommend RIP2 for your net is beacuse 
things could get hairy with your Portmasters, which don't support 
RIP2 (or OSPF for that matter). You have to be very careful when 
broadcasting RIP2 packets on a net that has boxes that only 
understand classic RIP. What we do to get the routes to our 
Portmasters is have one of our Ciscos redistribute routes learned via 
OSPF into RIP.

My $0.02.

On 30 Jun 96 at 22:39, Brian Tao wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Kenneth Merry wrote:
> >
> > Well, there *might* be a reason to run routed, even if you only have
> > one default router, and you hardwire the default router in ahead of
> > time.
> 
>     Is it possible to tell routed not to mess with the default route?
> Our main router to the Internet for this subnet is a Cisco, but there
> are also Ascends and Livingston PM-2e's providing routing for dialup
> customers.  I think I need to be running routed if I want to use a
> classless routing protocol like RIPv2.  We have a couple of Web
> servers that each have a /25, which isn't possible with just RIP.

Bradley Dunn <dunn@harborcom.net>
Harbor Communications



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