From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Mar 15 23:16:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 708F337B718 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:16:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 74908 invoked by uid 100); 16 Mar 2001 07:16:49 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15025.48609.728194.582344@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:16:49 -0600 To: Brett Glass Cc: Mike Meyer , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010316000411.00e3dcb0@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010315232521.00ccf340@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010315180735.00c71720@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010315075228.00e60ac0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010315005732.00b5cef0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314185307.00e6ab00@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314182353.00ba5880@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314170008.00d86960@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314132512.04acb100@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010313211657.00e294a0@localhost> <3AADC096.DE27817@outpost.co.nz> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311235053.00e26140@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010306174618.N32515@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311230800.00e19bd0@localhost> <15020.28993.192354.986367@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010312223234.0445f3a0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010316000411.00e3dcb0@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > At 11:58 PM 3/15/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > >Yes, it's a fact that you spell it beliefs. As for what you believe > >about Stallman, repeating it as often as you want won't prove it, and > >won't change anyones mind. I offered you a chance to prove it, and the > >best you could do was come up with a couple of quotes that are as bad > >as Allchin's quotes, but don't prove anything. > Of course, you will accept nothing -- not even eyewitness > accounts or direct quotes -- as proof. And then walk away saying, > "See, you didn't prove anything!" I already pointed out the problem with the quotes. Your response to my request for the context was "go find it yourself." Come on - show me a single direct quote where he says "go steal programs". Or even two sentences, one that follows the other, where he says "publishers call sharing piracy. Share as much as you can". Better yet, provide a URL for that. I'm willing to read what you have to say and evaluate it, but I'm not going to take change my opinion just because you say so - I except you to actually prove your point, not merely bore me by constant repetition of it. > Which, of course, shows nothing but that it is pointless to converse > with you. You should be flattered that I chose to imitate your rhetorical technics. I should be happy that they have the same effect on you that they do on other people. > >You know, I now know why you act the way you do. It's fun. It's also > >amusing to see that you get to the same point that people do when > >dealing with you, and just give it up as a waste of time. > Hopefully, thoese other people learned something. I don't hold out > much hope that you have, though. You appear to be such a zealot > that it truly is a waste of time. I'm sure they learned something. Most of them learned that responding to what you write is a waste of time, because you aren't going to pay attention. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message