From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 30 02:51:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B095C155E5F8 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 02:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82A3E8FD8F for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 02:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.229.77]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M5fUw-1h2tMB1fIY-007GEg; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 03:51:13 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 03:51:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: eee-dee anyone? 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Or is there any real advantage over "vi"? > > Probably pretty few people using it any more. > > Remember that it's actually just a different flavor of vi (same > executable), so getting rid of it would be silly. I think you're confusing vi and ex here (which are the same executable), but ed is something different (a different program). But I think the reason for this confusion is that using ed feels like using vi's ex mode or the ex standalone program. :-) % hardlinks.sh /usr/bin | grep vi 825093: ex nex nvi nview vi view Compare the locations: % which ed ee vi ex /bin/ed <- the standard editor /usr/bin/ee <- easy to use visual editor /usr/bin/vi <- the "normal" vi /usr/bin/ex <- the "ex mode" vi The standard editor, ed, is the only one present in / (which /bin is part of), whereas the others are located in /usr, which _might_ be a different partition, not accessible in a worst-case scenario where you only have / read-only and nothing else. Of course, this is mostly only historically important, because you won't find "functionally separated partitions" based on UFS very often, and modern partitioning approaches as well as ZFS typically don't have that kind of problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...