From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 06:36:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C29106566B for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66FA8FC12 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [82.95.250.254]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6T6Njbo093410; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:23:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.14.2/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m6T6NjPO086780; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:23:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6T6NjSW086779; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:23:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:23:44 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Szilveszter Adam Message-ID: <20080729062344.GA86638@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20080728120008.0BBF710656C5@hub.freebsd.org> <02c801c8f0dc$16caf410$0100010a@oemspc03> <20080729052101.GB1995@baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080729052101.GB1995@baranyfelhocske.buza.adamsfamily.xx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 248, Issue 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:36:47 -0000 Quoting Szilveszter Adam, who wrote on Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 07:21:01AM +0200 .. > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:02:23PM +0200, Salvatore Albanese wrote: > > We must remind that apple experimented with UNIX many years ago and now use > > the Darwin distro for MAC OS X. This is a big statement! Imagine a BSD > > distro that is so easy even windows users find it confortable. 20% of the > > windows market moved to MAC OX S in that last 18 months. > > While I agree that decent, and enthusiastic (but not zealot) advocacy is > a good thing, I think it is very important to say the truth. > > It is just too frequently that I here statements that essentially say: > "MacOS X is just FreeBSD with an Apple GUI on it". That's just not true. > The Darwin kernel is a Mach kernel (something that the BSDs do not have > and did not have with the exception of the failed attempt xMach) which Well, DEC OSF/1 also heavily built on Mach. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org