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Subject: Re: un-neccessary DNS lookups (was Re: Divert sockets..) 
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> > > > # localhost
> > > > 127.0.0.1		localhost localhost.lambert.org
> > > 
> > > I know this sounds silly, but if you reverse the order of the hosts
> > > file, does it make any difference?
> > > 
> > > 127.0.0.1		localhost.lambert.org localhost
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > > # 192.168.1	FreeBSD netblock
> > > > 192.168.1.1		phaeton phaeton.lambert.org
> > > 
> > > 192.168.1.1		phaeton.lambert.org phaeton
> > > ...
> > 
> > Strange.... OpenBSD gets this wrong by default (the way Terry has it).
> 
> Ugh.  Here's why:
> 
> When I say "w" or "who", I want it to say "phaeton" not
> "phaeton.lambert.org".  I know I'm in "lambert.org".  I want to be able
> to see at a glance local domain vs. extra-local domain logins to my
> system.
> 
> I also want to be able to make a sed script to kill of extra-local
> logins, if I want, without having to have the thing parse resolv.conf.
> 
> The order I have them in is identical to the example i the FreeBSD
> distributed /etc/hosts file for "localhost".
> 
> This should be *irrelevant*.  The only purpose order on a line in
> the hosts file should have is determining which entry is reported
> as the cannoical name to things that display cannonical names.
> 
> Like "w".

Hmm, 'w' or 'who' should be smart enough to chop off the domain bit 
if it's the same as hostname's.  netstat does this.

> Sheesh.
> 
> 
> 					Terry Lambert
> 					terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.

-- 
Brian <brian@awfulhak.org>, <brian@freebsd.org>
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