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Date:      Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:05:19 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@me.com>
Subject:   Re: Digi CCWMX53
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Hey Russ,

A quick read suggests all, or nearly all, of the data needed to write a =
full NFC for this chip is present. The programming and read sequences =
and information about ECC error rates appear to be readily available. =
The exact ECC used, however, appears opaque. This may or may not be a =
problem. It even appears to have command sequencing built into the =
controller. This is a great feature, but one the current code doesn=92t =
make use of.

Warner

On Oct 2, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> wrote:

> Warner,=20
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> I was looking for a Digi reference but it turns out the Nand Flash =
Controller is part of the Freescale Processor. Here is the link to the =
Reference Manual:
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> cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/iMX53RM.pdf
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> The NAND Flash Controller is in Chapter 51 page 3571 to page 3647.=20
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> Is this relevant to what you are looking at doing? =
https://wiki.freebsd.org/NAND
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> I also found something called CHFS for NetBSD that looks interesting: =
http://chewiefs.sed.hu/home
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> Thanks,=20
> Russ
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> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
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> On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> > Warner,
> >
> > First, I was just watching your 2010 talk on supporting FreeBSD in a =
commercial environment. Has there been any updates in the process of =
maintaining a commercial branch in the last 4 years (not that I have any =
commercial ventures yet! lolz)?
> >
> > Anyway, I talked to an Engineer about the NAND controller spec and =
he chided me for being naive (poor little software developer, in way =
over his head. tisk tisk). He mentioned a FIVE THOUSAND page reference =
manual, which I have yet to find on the Digi site.
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> URL + section number. 5k pages doesn=92t necessarily mean it will be =
useful, though. :(
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> > I have however found this hardware reference:
> >
> > http://ftp1.digi.com/support/documentation/90001270_E.pdf
> >
> > =46rom Page 41:
> >
> > NAND flash memory
> > The ConnectCore for i.MX53 module provides 8GB of NAND flash memory. =
On the module in
> > the development kits a 512MByte, 2Kbyte page, NAND flash chip is =
used. This NAND flash
> > device is connected to NAND flash Chip Select 0.
> > The NAND flash controller signals are available on the module =
connectors.
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> This basically says nothing more useful than =93There=92s NAND on this =
board that=92s 4Gbits on CS0.=94 which is useful, but far from =
sufficient. How do I program the DMA so that ECC is added to the OOB =
areas of that NAND? How do I set different ECC tables? How do I do ECC =
error correction and detection? If you can=92t answer that sort of =
question from the docs you have, then they aren=92t helpful enough.
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> > There are pin references to NAND further down in the section "GPIO =
multiplexing table in the ConnectCore for i.MX53 module" on page 44 and =
49.
> >
> > I fear this is not the information we are looking for.
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> Not really. The GPIO info might be mildly helpful in a few cases
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> > I have found another u-boot fork for the CCWMX53 on github here: =
https://github.com/Varcain/uboot-ccwmx53-digi
> >
> > With what seems to be the information about booting from NAND here: =
https://github.com/Varcain/uboot-ccwmx53-digi/tree/master/nand_spl
> >
> > If you can let me know what I am looking for I can both ask a more =
directed question at work and also perform a better search.
> >
> > I have also started looking over the Architecture handbook as well =
because I have a feeling there is going to be lots of driver code in my =
future.
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> A good first step would be to get a URL or search string to get the =
URL for that big spec. It is of the right size to possibly be useful, =
but sometimes really long specs have 1-2 page descriptions of things =
like the SD controller or the NAND controller that you need special NDAs =
+ business arrangements to get, so it is hard to say=85
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> Warner
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> >
> > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> =
wrote:
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> > On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> >
> > > I will attempt to load the kernel from tftp as soon as I can. I =
will need
> > > to figure out how to get ethernet to the unit.
> > >
> > > I know nothing about u-boot so forgive my ignorance but I was =
hoping to
> > > modify the Arndale configuration to work such as:
> > >
> > > # mmc read 1 0x70800000 0x800 0x1800;
> > > #go 0x70800000;
> > >
> > > and then point the rootfs to /dev/da1s1
> > >
> > > On another note, do you know where I could find out more about the =
missing
> > > MTD support?
> >
> > A spec for the NAND controller is needed to make that work=85  Is =
one about?
> >
> > Warner
> >
> >
> > > BTW, I thought your wireless mesh stuff was pretty cool. Ah, so =
many cool
> > > projects, so little time...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Russ
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@me.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sep 27, 2014, at 13:31, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Rui,
> > >>>
> > >>> So no MTD means the NAND on the SOM is out, but can I boot the =
kernel
> > >> and load rootfs from the microSD, like in this example:
> > >>>      =95
> > >>> ARNDALE5250 # setenv bootcmd "fatload mmc 0:1 0x40f00000 =
kernel.bin; go
> > >> 0x40f00000"
> > >>>
> > >>> ARNDALE5250 # saveenv
> > >>>
> > >>> ARNDALE5250 # boot
> > >>
> > >> You can't use the Arndale config since the load addresses are =
different.
> > >> You should be able to load a kernel from the network.  Can you do =
that?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Rui Paulo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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