From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 17 20:19:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857A37B401; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B579943E88; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021018031943.MQTV18217.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 18 Oct 2002 03:19:43 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9I3Jhva058074; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9I3JPl6058057; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210180319.g9I3JPl6058057@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Garance A Drosehn , jmallet@freebsd.org Cc: Bruce A Mah , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/44070: Minor corrections to release notes for 4.7 In-Reply-To: <11597FB5-E0A7-11D6-96E6-00306576693E@rpi.edu> References: <11597FB5-E0A7-11D6-96E6-00306576693E@rpi.edu> Comments: In-reply-to Garance A Drosehn message dated "Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:32:00 -0400." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-593172532P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:19:25 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-593172532P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > Bruce Mah wrote: > > If memory serves me right, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > > The release notes at: > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/4.7R/relnotes-i386.html > > > and http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/4.7R/relnotes-alpha.html > > > imply that 'xargs -J' is depreciated. This is not true. It > > > does not do the same thing as -I, and therefore it is still > > > very useful. It is a freebsd-only option (at least for now), > > > but it is not depreciated. > > > > See for example the commit message for revision 1.16 of src/usr.sbin/ > > xargs/xargs.1. I interpeted that to mean "xargs -J is deprecated". > > Yeah, I remember the commit message going by, and at the time I sent a > message off to jmallet pointing out that -J should *not* be > depreciated. Also note that the man page was never changed to say -J > was depreciated, Juli only made that comment as part of the commit > entry. I probably sent that as a private message exchange at the time. > > I didn't occur to me that someone else would pick up on that comment and > assume that -J was officially on track to be depreciated. The -J option > is a very useful option which I've always wished for when I am on other > platforms, and I was pretty excited when it was added to freebsd. I > want to see the other OS's adopt it, instead of us getting rid of it! I don't use either of these options (my loss, I suppose!). > > > Also, the release notes do not mention some improvements > > > to the 'lpc' command. > > > > At the time, it wasn't clear to me how significant these changes were. > > I'm happy to be corrected, but this is why I like to get heads-up > > messages (or text or direct commits) from developers regarding changes > > they consider to be important. > > To be honest, I suspect that few people will find those options as > attractive as I do. I would not have even mentioned them except that I > definitely wanted to say something about xargs, so I also added lpc as > long as I was writing a PR. > > > If you want, I can figure out something to add to -CURRENT's release > > notes. Is this important enough to also warrant an entry in the 4.7 > > errata? > > It would be nice enough to add a short blurb to -current wrt the new lpc > options. They certainly are not important enough to deserve a special > errata entry for 4.7. I'll try to cobble something together for -CURRENT (probably copying stuff from your commit message, since that's the way I usually do it). > I do think it would be good to have an errata item on xargs, lest people > think they have to start avoiding -J. Probably should check with > jmallet just to make sure we're all still on the same wavelength on that. OK, let's ask her, then. Juli, any comment on "xargs -J"? Bruce. --==_Exmh_-593172532P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE9r3292MoxcVugUsMRAvzpAKDSAKV9hTyUtUcSBuwknwXQBbcptACgtVea KR1CazmbHsERnDVoHng1GaA= =hVzX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-593172532P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message